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denelson
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#1: Jan 18 '06
Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
explorer, but not netscape.


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#2: Jan 18 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access


denelson wrote:
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> Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
> Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
> explorer, but not netscape.[/color]

The relevance of proprietary resources not being (properly) displayed in
other user agents (UAs), regarding JS/ECMAScript programming, is zero.
You should generate Valid documents and serve them with the appropriate
headers (if served via HTTP).

<URL:http://validator.w3.org/>

That said, probably you use V(ery)B(ad)Script, which is not supported by
Netscape or any other non-IE UA.


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VK
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#3: Jan 18 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access



denelson wrote:[color=blue]
> Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
> Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
> explorer, but not netscape.[/color]

Data Access Pages can only be created using Access 2000 (or later) and
can only be viewed by users of Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 (or
later).

The main reason is that:
1) They are heavily based on ActiveX technology which is
Microsoft-proprietary.
2) Microsoft created it for "loyal" Office / IE users and simply
doesn't want to make it cross-browser which is ensured by some
intentional incompatability methods. That is one of "put on the niddle"
services - its whole idea is to attach particular solutions to
particular browser. A durty trick but it is practiced intensively in
the business, and *not* only by Microsoft and *not* only in browser
production. Said this - please feel free to use it if you are sure that
no other browsers but IE will be used by your customers.

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#4: Jan 18 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access


VK wrote:
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> denelson wrote:[color=green]
>> Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
>> Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
>> explorer, but not netscape.[/color]
>
> [...]
> The main reason is that:
> 1) They are heavily based on ActiveX technology which is
> Microsoft-proprietary.[/color]

Netscape on Microsoft Windows supports ActiveX objects ever since, so
that is not the reason why it does not work. Again you have no clue
what you are talking about. Stop that.


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Randy Webb
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#5: Jan 18 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 1/18/2006 3:57 PM:[color=blue]
> VK wrote:
>[color=green]
>> denelson wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
>>> Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
>>> explorer, but not netscape.[/color]
>> [...]
>> The main reason is that:
>> 1) They are heavily based on ActiveX technology which is
>> Microsoft-proprietary.[/color]
>
> Netscape on Microsoft Windows supports ActiveX objects ever since, so
> that is not the reason why it does not work. Again you have no clue
> what you are talking about. Stop that.[/color]

Netscape supporting ActiveX? Surely you are kidding.....

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rkc
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#6: Jan 19 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=blue]
> VK wrote:[/color]
[color=blue]
> Netscape on Microsoft Windows supports ActiveX objects ever since, so
> that is not the reason why it does not work. Again you have no clue
> what you are talking about. Stop that.[/color]

nonsense.
John W. Kennedy
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#7: Jan 19 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access


Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 1/18/2006 3:57 PM:[color=green]
>> VK wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> denelson wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
>>>> Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
>>>> explorer, but not netscape.
>>> [...]
>>> The main reason is that:
>>> 1) They are heavily based on ActiveX technology which is
>>> Microsoft-proprietary.[/color]
>>
>> Netscape on Microsoft Windows supports ActiveX objects ever since, so
>> that is not the reason why it does not work. Again you have no clue
>> what you are talking about. Stop that.[/color]
>
> Netscape supporting ActiveX? Surely you are kidding.....[/color]

This whole thread is stupid. /Which/ Netscape? for Heaven's sake!
Netscape 8 certainly supports (in a certain sense) ActiveX, inasmuch as
it hands any webpage it thinks Gecko won't like over to IE.

--
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"But now is a new thing which is very old--
that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,
which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake."
-- Charles Williams. "Judgement at Chelmsford"
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#8: Jan 19 '06

re: Netscape with Microsoft Access


John W. Kennedy wrote:
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> Randy Webb wrote:[color=green]
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 1/18/2006 3:57 PM:[color=darkred]
>>> VK wrote:
>>>> denelson wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know what might cause netscape not to open Data Access
>>>>> Pages from Microsoft Access 2000? I can open them fine with internet
>>>>> explorer, but not netscape.
>>>> [...]
>>>> The main reason is that:
>>>> 1) They are heavily based on ActiveX technology which is
>>>> Microsoft-proprietary.
>>> Netscape on Microsoft Windows supports ActiveX objects ever since, so
>>> that is not the reason why it does not work. Again you have no clue
>>> what you are talking about. Stop that.[/color]
>> Netscape supporting ActiveX? Surely you are kidding.....[/color]
>
> This whole thread is stupid. /Which/ Netscape? for Heaven's sake![/color]

You talk my words :)
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> Netscape 8 certainly supports (in a certain sense) ActiveX, [...][/color]

Netscape versions 4.x, 7.1 and 7.2 for Windows support ActiveX in a
certain sense, too, ...
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> inasmuch as it hands any webpage it thinks Gecko won't like over to IE.[/color]

.... but I am not sure if it is in this sense, too.

<URL:http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm>

You see that "Netscape 7.1 & 7.2 ship with the ActiveX plugin by default.",
however "It is restricted to only hosting [the] Windows Media Player
control."


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