Safari and Opera Support

Hi,

Can somebody with a mac please check if my website style sheet works
reasonably well in Safari, and possibly suggest a fix for any problems?
I tried the iCapture website to get a screen shot, but it seems to be
down.

Site: http://www.lachy.id.au/
Stylesheet: http://www.lachy.id.au/lib/style/basic/coolblue

I've got it working perfectly in Mozilla. IE, and any other UAs that
don't support application/xhtml+xml are intentionally being served
unstyled content.

It works ok in Opera, but something strange is happening with the
navigation menu. There seems to be some extra margins or padding being
applied, which gradually increases for each subsequent item. I may be
able to work that out when I have time, but if anyone can find a fix for
Opera, then that would be greatly appreciated also.

--
Lachlan Hunt
http://www.lachy.id.au/

Please direct all spam to abuse@127.0.0.1
Thank you.

re: Safari and Opera Support

In article <vQ7Oc.21797$K53.10489@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> Can somebody with a mac please check if my website style sheet works
> reasonably well in Safari, and possibly suggest a fix for any problems?
> I tried the iCapture website to get a screen shot, but it seems to be
> down.
>
> Site: http://www.lachy.id.au/
> Stylesheet: http://www.lachy.id.au/lib/style/basic/coolblue
>
> I've got it working perfectly in Mozilla. IE, and any other UAs that
> don't support application/xhtml+xml are intentionally being served
> unstyled content.
>
> It works ok in Opera, but something strange is happening with the
> navigation menu. There seems to be some extra margins or padding being
> applied, which gradually increases for each subsequent item. I may be
> able to work that out when I have time, but if anyone can find a fix for
> Opera, then that would be greatly appreciated also.[/color]

Mac OS 10.3.4 --
Mozilla based browsers (Camino, Mozilla, Firefox) all display page with
style sheet working. In Safari, IE, and iCab, the page is served as
unstyled content.

--
Matt Broughton
Only relatives are absolute.

re: Safari and Opera Support

Matt Broughton wrote:[color=blue]
> Mac OS 10.3.4 --
> Mozilla based browsers (Camino, Mozilla, Firefox) all display page with
> style sheet working. In Safari, IE, and iCab, the page is served as
> unstyled content.[/color]

That seems strange, I thought Safari supported application/xhtml+xml?
At the moment, it's just set up with Apache's MultiViews, and there's an
index.html (unstyled HTML 4.01) and index.xhtml (styled XHTML 1.1).
Does Safari send a lower q value for XHTML, than it does for HTML, or
does anyone know why else this could occur?

I will eventually be setting this up dynamically, rather than having
2 seperate files, but I have to learn how first. Anyway, here's the 2
static files currently being served:
http://www.lachy.id.au/index.html (html 4.01)
http://www.lachy.id.au/index.xhtml (xhtml 1.1)

--
Lachlan Hunt
http://www.lachy.id.au/

Please direct all spam to abuse@127.0.0.1
Thank you.

re: Safari and Opera Support

Lachlan Hunt wrote:
[color=blue]
> Does Safari send a lower q value for XHTML, than it does for HTML, or
> does anyone know why else this could occur?[/color]

If it does not send q values and there is no other means of determining
priority, Apache uses filename alphabetical order, so it will serve the
..html in preference to the .xhtml.


See my (now out-of-date for my site) information at:

http://tranchant.plus.com/notes/multiviews

--
Mark.

re: Safari and Opera Support

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:28:43 GMT, Lachlan Hunt
<lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> It works ok in Opera, but something strange is happening with the
> navigation menu. There seems to be some extra margins or padding being
> applied, which gradually increases for each subsequent item. I may be
> able to work that out when I have time, but if anyone can find a fix for
> Opera, then that would be greatly appreciated also.[/color]

If by "works ok in Opera", you mean that Opera users will get an unstyled
page, then you're absolutely correct.

Sue "using MacOpera. version 7.54" Sims

re: Safari and Opera Support

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:30:09 GMT, Lachlan Hunt
<lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Matt Broughton wrote:[color=green]
>> Mac OS 10.3.4 --
>> Mozilla based browsers (Camino, Mozilla, Firefox) all display page with
>> style sheet working. In Safari, IE, and iCab, the page is served as
>> unstyled content.[/color]
>
> That seems strange, I thought Safari supported application/xhtml+xml? At
> the moment, it's just set up with Apache's MultiViews, and there's an
> index.html (unstyled HTML 4.01) and index.xhtml (styled XHTML 1.1). Does
> Safari send a lower q value for XHTML, than it does for HTML, or does
> anyone know why else this could occur?
>
> I will eventually be setting this up dynamically, rather than having
> 2 seperate files, but I have to learn how first. Anyway, here's the 2
> static files currently being served:
> http://www.lachy.id.au/index.html (html 4.01)
> http://www.lachy.id.au/index.xhtml (xhtml 1.1)
>[/color]


A problem is that you are serving .html to Opera when you should serve
..xtml, I believe. When loading http://www.lachy.id.au/ in Opera 7.23 (PC)
I get the .html which has no stylesheet in the head. When loading
http://www.lachy.id.au/index.xhtml expressly, it works fine and renders
appropriately.