removing address,tool menu bars

I use
<form action="screen.php" target="_blank" method="post"and a submit button
to open a new separate window which is simply a display screen. I therefore
do not wish to have the address, tool and menu bars displayed. Can I do this
from the
form script? or would I have to put some HTML script on the page that is to
be opened. or is it only possible with java script?

Can anyone offer a solution on how to do this?

Thanks Ian

mantrid wrote:

Quote:

I use
<form action="screen.php" target="_blank" method="post"and a submit button
to open a new separate window which is simply a display screen. I therefore
do not wish to have the address, tool and menu bars displayed. Can I do this
from the
form script? or would I have to put some HTML script on the page that is to
be opened. or is it only possible with java script?

Only with JavaScript *if* the client allows.

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>
Can anyone offer a solution on how to do this?

Yes, don't.

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Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

I forgot to mention $_POST[variables] need to be carried forward to the new
page for filtering the data displayed there.

"mantrid" <ian.dandav@virgin.netwrote in message
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I use
<form action="screen.php" target="_blank" method="post"and a submit

button

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to open a new separate window which is simply a display screen. I

therefore

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do not wish to have the address, tool and menu bars displayed. Can I do

this

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from the
form script? or would I have to put some HTML script on the page that is

to

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be opened. or is it only possible with java script?
>
Can anyone offer a solution on how to do this?
>
Thanks Ian
>
>

mantrid wrote:

Quote:

I use
<form action="screen.php" target="_blank" method="post"and a submit button
to open a new separate window which is simply a display screen. I therefore
do not wish to have the address, tool and menu bars displayed. Can I do this
from the
form script? or would I have to put some HTML script on the page that is to
be opened. or is it only possible with java script?
>
Can anyone offer a solution on how to do this?
>
Thanks Ian
>
>

http://www.web-source.net/javascript_popup_window2.htm

If the popup is necessary then you should advise your visitors to be
sure to turn on JS. If it's for advertising, then f--k you.

On 12/9/2007 6:33 AM, mantrid wrote:

Quote:

I use
<form action="screen.php" target="_blank" method="post"and a submit button
to open a new separate window which is simply a display screen. I therefore
do not wish to have the address, tool and menu bars displayed. Can I do this
from the
form script? or would I have to put some HTML script on the page that is to
be opened. or is it only possible with java script?
>
Can anyone offer a solution on how to do this?
>
Thanks Ian
>
>

Do I understand you? You want to change how my browser appears and
works after I put an effort into making it appear and work exactly the
way I want it?

You can't. I use SeaMonkey as my browser. I installed an extension
that creates a non-standard toolbar that, if you suppress any of the
standard bars, this bar will still remain. On this bar, I have a button
that restores the other bars.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.notwrote in message
news:372dnZUtQ6_-sMHanZ2dnUVZ_saknZ2d@softcom.net...

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On 12/9/2007 6:33 AM, mantrid wrote:

Quote:

I use
<form action="screen.php" target="_blank" method="post"and a submit

button

Quote:

to open a new separate window which is simply a display screen. I

therefore

Quote:

do not wish to have the address, tool and menu bars displayed. Can I do

this

Quote:

from the
form script? or would I have to put some HTML script on the page that is

to

Quote:

be opened. or is it only possible with java script?

Can anyone offer a solution on how to do this?

Thanks Ian

>
Do I understand you? You want to change how my browser appears and
works after I put an effort into making it appear and work exactly the
way I want it?
>
You can't. I use SeaMonkey as my browser. I installed an extension
that creates a non-standard toolbar that, if you suppress any of the
standard bars, this bar will still remain. On this bar, I have a button
that restores the other bars.
>
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>
>
Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

Why is everyone getting uptight about this?
Perhaps it is easier if you see the service I am providing my users and then
you will understand why it is not nessessary to have clutter like tool and
address bars
goto
http://www.iddsoftware.co.uk/announc...ouncermain.php
and then click the example to see the display

ian

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:40:34 GMT, mantrid wrote:
F'ups set to c.i.w.a.h

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"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.notwrote in message
news:372dnZUtQ6_-sMHanZ2dnUVZ_saknZ2d@softcom.net...

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>>
>You can't. I use SeaMonkey as my browser. I installed an extension
>that creates a non-standard toolbar that, if you suppress any of the
>standard bars, this bar will still remain. On this bar, I have a button
>that restores the other bars.
>>
>--
>David E. Ross
><http://www.rossde.com/>
>>
>Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
>people who die of natural causes.

No need to quote sigs, much less the full body of a post.

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Why is everyone getting uptight about this?

Why do you suppose?

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Perhaps it is easier if you see the service I am providing my users and then
you will understand why it is not nessessary to have clutter like tool and
address bars
goto
http://www.iddsoftware.co.uk/announc...ouncermain.php
and then click the example to see the display

Actually clicking the example (image) doesn't do anything. I have to click
the "Click here" (where have I seen that before? ;-) ) to get the popup.

At least you left me the X in the upper right so I can close the window.

Pity you took away the scrollbars, though. How am I supposed to see the
content past the right and lower edges?

The "uptightness" is because snatching control from visitors is a rude
thing to do. Discussed in c.i.w.a.h and even alt.html often. As
publishers/developers we should have no reason to expect that visitors
enjoy having their font-size or other usability preferences ignored or
overruled. When a user thinks toolbars are "clutter", she can hide them.

Also (and in the same vein): Markup and CSS are invalid in both main window
and popup. You set text color and some BG colors, but not all BG colors.
Text is too small. The box with "If you are having any difficulties with
this service..." is hard to read because of the low contrast colors,
worsened by the text size. Text is specified in px. Etc. All the usual
things that get discussed here (c.i.w.a.h, a.html) regularly.

But given that your "service" is to put distracting scrolling text and
marquees on your (clients') users' screens, I can see why you might not
care about whether they can control their windows. The service is obnoxious
(whether you have customers for it or not), so its implementation might
well be, too.

In any case, you got your technical answer in the first reply.

--
John

mantrid wrote:

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>
Why is everyone getting uptight about this?
>

Basically, because you shouldn't do it.

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>
Pity you took away the scrollbars, though. How am I supposed to see the
content past the right and lower edges?

You use the height adjustment button. top right. All this stuff is
controlable on the admin screen for registered users. This is a simple
example

Quote:

>
The "uptightness" is because snatching control from visitors is a rude
thing to do. Discussed in c.i.w.a.h and even alt.html often. As
publishers/developers we should have no reason to expect that visitors
enjoy having their font-size or other usability preferences ignored or
overruled. When a user thinks toolbars are "clutter", she can hide them.
>

it is a noticeboard it is opened and left. There is no need for address bars
etc

Quote:

Also (and in the same vein): Markup and CSS are invalid in both main

window

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and popup. You set text color and some BG colors, but not all BG colors.
Text is too small. The box with "If you are having any difficulties with
this service..." is hard to read because of the low contrast colors,
worsened by the text size. Text is specified in px. Etc. All the usual
things that get discussed here (c.i.w.a.h, a.html) regularly.
>

All this stuff is controlable on the admin screen for registered users. This
is a simple example

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But given that your "service" is to put distracting scrolling text and
marquees on your (clients') users' screens, I can see why you might not
care about whether they can control their windows. The service is

obnoxious

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(whether you have customers for it or not), so its implementation might
well be, too.

you miss the point. the user chooses to use the display or not. nobody is
forced to use it. Please read the info on the site before posting this stuff

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>
In any case, you got your technical answer in the first reply.

you will see the example already incorporates this java script. You failed
to read the second of my posts

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>
--
John

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:39:56 GMT
The Magpie scribed:

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mantrid wrote:

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>>
>Why is everyone getting uptight about this?
>>

Basically, because you shouldn't do it.

Speaking of words, "Never have so few meant so much to so many".

- Winnie The Churchmouse

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

On 12/9/2007 11:40 AM, mantrid wrote [in part]:

Quote:

>
Why is everyone getting uptight about this?

If you have set a font-size too small for my 66-year-old eyes, I need my
menu bar to change the size.

If you have used a color combination that makes the page unreadable for
my color-blind brother and two cousins (grandpa was color-blind), they
need the toolbar to use their own default colors.

If I see something on the page that piques my interest and I want to
search further, I need my toolbar to launch a new tab in which to do the
search.

Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
merely to access the Web.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.notwrote in message
news:Xv-dnd0hy448XMHanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@softcom.net...

Quote:

On 12/9/2007 11:40 AM, mantrid wrote [in part]:

Quote:

Why is everyone getting uptight about this?

>
If you have set a font-size too small for my 66-year-old eyes, I need my
menu bar to change the size.
>

Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example

Quote:

If you have used a color combination that makes the page unreadable for
my color-blind brother and two cousins (grandpa was color-blind), they
need the toolbar to use their own default colors.
>

Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example

Quote:

If I see something on the page that piques my interest and I want to
search further, I need my toolbar to launch a new tab in which to do the
search.

The notice board is simply a display foe messages it is a separate window to
the rest of the site which remains open behind. Besides the noticeboard
simply remains open on the monitor, in a staffroom, reception, office ettc.
The administrator can do any manipulation from their own desktop pc. without
having to pop down to the communal area where the display is. People who
view the screen do just that they simply do not need to manipulate the
window in any way

Quote:

>
Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
merely to access the Web.

The design is based on user feedback. I am simply changing this service
everytime enough users suggest something. Im just giving them what they
want. Hope this is clearer. What I really dont need is arragant snide
comments about my coding abilities. I am actually a science teacher this is
a hobby for me. How good are you on genetics or microbiology?
Constructive critisism and useful tips appreciated anyone else dont waste
your time posting.

In comp.lang.javascript, alt.html, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
message <475C4ED1.5050005@PointedEars.de>, Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:23:45,
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.deposted:

Quote:

>
>2. You have crossposted to three newsgroups, and across two top-level
hierarchies, without Followup-To,

That is perfectly legitimate. You are a control freak with peculiar
ideas. Consult a reputable psychiatrist.

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Web <URL:http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html-Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
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In comp.lang.javascript, alt.html, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
message <475C4ED1.5050005@PointedEars.de>, Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:23:45,
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.deposted:

Quote:

>2. You have crossposted to three newsgroups, and across two top-level
> hierarchies, without Followup-To,

>
That is perfectly legitimate. You are a control freak with peculiar
ideas. Consult a reputable psychiatrist.
>

Agree, "Major Redirect" here has caught me not noticing the change in
follow-ups on more than one occasion.

Actually I find it really more confusing when a thread "appears"
suddenly mid-discussion without any context in a NG. Yes, it is okay to
truncate the list, but sometimes this guy follow-ups to different NGs. I
feel if the subject is OT better to just announce that alt.xxxxx would
be a better place to start a *new* thread on this topic...

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:46:10
GMT mantrid scribed:

Quote:

>Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
>for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
>merely to access the Web.

>
>
The design is based on user feedback. I am simply changing this
service everytime enough users suggest something. Im just giving them
what they want. Hope this is clearer. What I really dont need is
arragant snide comments about my coding abilities. I am actually a
science teacher this is a hobby for me. How good are you on genetics
or microbiology? Constructive critisism and useful tips appreciated
anyone else dont waste your time posting.

If you're a teacher, how come your spelling and grammar suck? Furthermore,
the "giving them what they want" line is a favorite misdirection of illogic
often used by sneaks and tyrants. Ross is right, and the odds exceed those
of the double recessive that you're a fibber to boot.

How's that for constructive?

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

In article <Xns9A02926FAD920boneurhyphe@85.214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher@yahoo.comwrote:

Quote:

...the odds exceed those
of the double recessive that you're a fibber to boot.
>
How's that for constructive?

Reminds me of the scene in A Perfect Murder in the train when
Michael Douglas kills Viggo Mortensen, whom he had hired to kill
his own wife, Gwyneth Paltrow.

Viggo Mortensen had earlier criticised Douglas for not being
prepared to kill his own wife because he could not stomach the
"wet work".

As Douglas stabs Mortensen, he says something like: "How's that
for wet work!"

(Yeah I know, you probably haven't seen it... It is a remake of
the classic Dial M for Murder with Ray Milland and Grace Kelly.
Grace Kelly not only survived as did Paltrow, but went on to be a
princess in Europe)

--
dorayme

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:44:12 GMT
dorayme scribed:

Quote:

>...the odds exceed those
>of the double recessive that you're a fibber to boot.
>>
>How's that for constructive?

>
Reminds me of the scene in A Perfect Murder in the train when
Michael Douglas kills Viggo Mortensen, whom he had hired to kill
his own wife, Gwyneth Paltrow.
>
Viggo Mortensen had earlier criticised Douglas for not being
prepared to kill his own wife because he could not stomach the
"wet work".
>
As Douglas stabs Mortensen, he says something like: "How's that
for wet work!"
>
(Yeah I know, you probably haven't seen it... It is a remake of
the classic Dial M for Murder with Ray Milland and Grace Kelly.
Grace Kelly not only survived as did Paltrow, but went on to be a
princess in Europe)

Nope, don't recollect seeing it. Might want to, though; the cast sounds
interesting. And, of course, wife-killing has its own integral appeal.

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

In article <Xns9A02C01393855boneurhyphe@85.214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher@yahoo.comwrote:

Quote:

Might want to, though; the cast sounds
interesting. And, of course, wife-killing has its own integral appeal.

Yes, well, you must see it and tell me how the fate that awaits
the 'attempted murderer' appeals to you. Integrally, that is.

--
dorayme

On 12/10/2007 10:46 AM, mantrid wrote:

Quote:

"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.notwrote in message
news:Xv-dnd0hy448XMHanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@softcom.net...

Quote:

>On 12/9/2007 11:40 AM, mantrid wrote [in part]:

Quote:

>>Why is everyone getting uptight about this?

>If you have set a font-size too small for my 66-year-old eyes, I need my
>menu bar to change the size.
>>

>
Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example
>
>

Quote:

>If you have used a color combination that makes the page unreadable for
>my color-blind brother and two cousins (grandpa was color-blind), they
>need the toolbar to use their own default colors.
>>

>
Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example
>

Quote:

>If I see something on the page that piques my interest and I want to
>search further, I need my toolbar to launch a new tab in which to do the
>search.

>
The notice board is simply a display foe messages it is a separate window to
the rest of the site which remains open behind. Besides the noticeboard
simply remains open on the monitor, in a staffroom, reception, office ettc.
The administrator can do any manipulation from their own desktop pc. without
having to pop down to the communal area where the display is. People who
view the screen do just that they simply do not need to manipulate the
window in any way
>

Quote:

>Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
>for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
>merely to access the Web.

>
>
The design is based on user feedback. I am simply changing this service
everytime enough users suggest something. Im just giving them what they
want. Hope this is clearer. What I really dont need is arragant snide
comments about my coding abilities. I am actually a science teacher this is
a hobby for me. How good are you on genetics or microbiology?
Constructive critisism and useful tips appreciated anyone else dont waste
your time posting.

Overall, it appears that the pages you want to create will implement
features that already exist in modern browsers. This is termed
"reinventing the wheel".

While I'm not an educator, my daughter is. She specializes in distance
learning for adults at both a community college and a university, mostly
over the Web and for a very broad spectrum of subjects (nursing,
continuing education for doctors, automotive repair). We frequently
discuss her career activities (which sometimes includes presenting
papers at international conferences of educators). When someone asks
her for a "new" feature that is already inherent in most browsers, she
tells them how to use their browser rather than implement what the
browser already provides. In the end, the students appreciate the
ability to retain control of their own configurations.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:09:52 GMT
dorayme scribed:

Quote:

In article <Xns9A02C01393855boneurhyphe@85.214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher@yahoo.comwrote:
>

Quote:

>Might want to, though; the cast sounds
>interesting. And, of course, wife-killing has its own integral appeal.

>
Yes, well, you must see it and tell me how the fate that awaits
the 'attempted murderer' appeals to you. Integrally, that is.

Okay, I'll try to obtain it in the near future. Sounds like the bad guy
got his come-uppance, though. (Should've been Russ Crowe...)

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

In article <Xns9A03C5B4DBD7boneurhyphe@85.214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher@yahoo.comwrote:

Quote:

Okay, I'll try to obtain it in the near future. Sounds like the bad guy
got his come-uppance, though. (Should've been Russ Crowe...)

you mean after all the things I have got him to do to you? <g>

It is a very good film! So was the original Hitchcock movie.

--
dorayme

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:13:09
GMT dorayme scribed:

Quote:

>Okay, I'll try to obtain it in the near future. Sounds like the bad
>guy got his come-uppance, though. (Should've been Russ Crowe...)

>
you mean after all the things I have got him to do to you? <g>

Nah, I kicked his butt. He ran away whining and squealing after I showed
him who's boss. If he reported otherwise, he's taking ya for a ride.

Quote:

It is a very good film! So was the original Hitchcock movie.

Vaguely remember "Dial M For Murder" (it was before my time.) My fav
Hitchy flick is "North By Northwest". Just a tad dated now, but seldom if
ever have I seen a movie with more suspense.

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

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