cross-browser css only menus

[yb]

hi,

i've searched for a css-only menu (that works with javascript disabled)
and haven't found any.

are there any known solutions for this problem ... either multi-level,
or one-level ... or vertical / horizontal?

must also work in internet explorer

Thanks

[Rik]

yb wrote:

hi,

i've searched for a css-only menu (that works with javascript
disabled) and haven't found any.

are there any known solutions for this problem ... either multi-level,
or one-level ... or vertical / horizontal?

Ton's and tons and tons.
Ever heard of <ul>'s? They're great for menus.
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/

Maybe if you'de be more specific about your actual needs.
If you're looking for a pop-up/folding like list: not untill MSIE supports
the :hover on other elements then just <a href=''>.
--
Rik Wasmus

[yb]

Maybe if you'de be more specific about your actual needs.
If you're looking for a pop-up/folding like list: not untill MSIE supports
the :hover on other elements then just <a href=''>.
--

yep, thats what i'm looking for.

I was pretty sure this wouldn't be possible in IE, but was hoping maybe
someone had a solution i missed

[Rik]

yb wrote:

>Maybe if you'de be more specific about your actual needs.
If you're looking for a pop-up/folding like list: not untill MSIE
supports the :hover on other elements then just <a href=''>.
--

yep, thats what i'm looking for.

I was pretty sure this wouldn't be possible in IE, but was hoping
maybe someone had a solution i missed

It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P
--
Rik Wasmus

[dorayme]

In article <96***************************@news2.tudelft.nl> ,
"Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrote:

It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P

You will be waiting a while, there are people still on Win 2000
etc and unable to get 7...

--
dorayme

[Rik]

dorayme wrote:

In article <96***************************@news2.tudelft.nl> ,
"Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrote:

>It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P

You will be waiting a while, there are people still on Win 2000
etc and unable to get 7...

Yup, like me :P.

It'll be a long wait.
Allthough you might consider solving it in IE lt 7 with scripting. As long
as it will work, only not that fancy, without javascript offcourse.
--
Rik Wasmus

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

dorayme wrote:

"Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrote:

>It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P

You will be waiting a while, there are people still on Win 2000
etc and unable to get 7...

</waves>

Win2000 is my last Microsoft OS. By the time it wears out, I'll be so
old I don't need it for Visual FoxPro any longer. VFP is the only reason
I still have it.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Rik]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

dorayme wrote:

> "Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrote:

>>It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P

You will be waiting a while, there are people still on Win 2000
etc and unable to get 7...

</waves>

Win2000 is my last Microsoft OS. By the time it wears out, I'll be so
old I don't need it for Visual FoxPro any longer. VFP is the only
reason I still have it.

Ooh, I'd like to have that luxury.
There are 2 reasons for me to keep using Windows:
- Ultraedit (allthough, Linux has some very interesting counter-parts).
- I HAVE to test in MSIE

IF it were me personally, i'd dump Windows, for now I keep W2K, and
probably will have to upgrade someday just for the browser. The agony.
--
Rik Wasmus

[dorayme]

In article
<qw*********************@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@example.invalidwrote:

dorayme wrote:

"Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrote:

It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P

You will be waiting a while, there are people still on Win 2000
etc and unable to get 7...

</waves>

Win2000 is my last Microsoft OS. By the time it wears out, I'll be so
old I don't need it for Visual FoxPro any longer. VFP is the only reason
I still have it.

Had to look that one up... yes, now and then MS do put out some
useful things! I used to have fun with MS QuickBasic where you
could be really slack and still run... the PowerPC chips in Macs
spoilt the fun, there was then FutureBasic which was much
stricter.

About Win2000, that is what I have on my PC too (due to it being
given to me from a friend and it being so much better than 98 for
USB support at least... via which is mainly how I get to see my
sites on it). I think JL has it too.

--
dorayme

[Jukka K. Korpela]

Scripsit Rik:

It's rumoured [:hover on non-link elements] works on IE7, so just might
have to wait it out :P

Rumoured? It actually works. This is good news, for many purposes.

But hopefully not for the purpose discussed here. There's nothing wrong with
a presentational feature that works only for 5 % or for 95 % of users, as
long as you don't expect too much from it. But basing _navigation_ (menus)
on techniques that work for part of users only is crazy, when you have the
simple and robust option of using just normal links.

By the way, the extended support to :hover in IE 7 bad news to anyone who
has used just :hover as a selector, expecting it to match hovered links
(only).

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

[Rik]

Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

Scripsit Rik:

>It's rumoured [:hover on non-link elements] works on IE7, so just
might have to wait it out :P

Rumoured? It actually works. This is good news, for many purposes.

But hopefully not for the purpose discussed here. There's nothing
wrong with a presentational feature that works only for 5 % or for 95
% of users, as long as you don't expect too much from it. But basing
_navigation_ (menus) on techniques that work for part of users only
is crazy, when you have the simple and robust option of using just
normal links.

Agreed, 't is far better indeed.

By the way, the extended support to :hover in IE 7 bad news to anyone
who has used just :hover as a selector, expecting it to match hovered
links (only).

Hmmmz, do I smell extra easy income sorting out other peoples bad html/css?
--
Rik Wasmus

[Ben Bacarisse]

"Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrites:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>dorayme wrote:

>> "Rik" <lu************@hotmail.comwrote:

It's rumoured it works on IE7, so just might have to wait it out :P

You will be waiting a while, there are people still on Win 2000
etc and unable to get 7...

</waves>

Win2000 is my last Microsoft OS. By the time it wears out, I'll be so
old I don't need it for Visual FoxPro any longer. VFP is the only
reason I still have it.

Ooh, I'd like to have that luxury.
There are 2 reasons for me to keep using Windows:
- Ultraedit (allthough, Linux has some very interesting counter-parts).
- I HAVE to test in MSIE

Have you discovered: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

He posted a beta version of IE7 before I was able to find a real PC
running it to test the site I was working on! IE7 support is still
experimental though and since I _have_ dumped MS Windows I can not be
absolutely sure that I am seeing what IE users see, but I have not yet
had anyone complain.

--
Ben.