Session management

[Antoninus Twink]

I am writing a program using GTK+ 2. I'd like to register it with KDE's
session manager, ksmserver, so that it will start up once KDE is
restarted. How should I do that?

Thanks!

[Walter Roberson]

In article <sl*********************@nospam.com>,
Antoninus Twink <di**********@in.validwrote:

>I am writing a program using GTK+ 2. I'd like to register it with KDE's
session manager, ksmserver, so that it will start up once KDE is
restarted. How should I do that?

We don't know. If there is a KDE newsgroup or mailing list or web site,
they would probably know there. GTK and KDE and session managers
are not part of the C language, so we don't discuss them here.
--
Okay, buzzwords only. Two syllables, tops. -- Laurie Anderson

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <f8**********@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
Walter Roberson <ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.cawrote:

>In article <sl*********************@nospam.com>,
Antoninus Twink <di**********@in.validwrote:

>>I am writing a program using GTK+ 2. I'd like to register it with KDE's
session manager, ksmserver, so that it will start up once KDE is
restarted. How should I do that?

We don't know. If there is a KDE newsgroup or mailing list or web site,
they would probably know there. GTK and KDE and session managers
are not part of the C language, so we don't discuss them here.

IOW:

Off topic. Not portable. Cant discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

Useful clc-related links:
--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_programming_language

[Malcolm McLean]

"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@xmission.xmission.comwrote in message
news:f8**********@news.xmission.com...

In article <f8**********@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
Walter Roberson <ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.cawrote:

>>In article <sl*********************@nospam.com>,
Antoninus Twink <di**********@in.validwrote:

>>>I am writing a program using GTK+ 2. I'd like to register it with KDE's
session manager, ksmserver, so that it will start up once KDE is
restarted. How should I do that?

We don't know. If there is a KDE newsgroup or mailing list or web site,
they would probably know there. GTK and KDE and session managers
are not part of the C language, so we don't discuss them here.

IOW:

Off topic. Not portable. Cant discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

Useful clc-related links:
--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_programming_language

Obvious the Knome start-up sequence has got to be off-topic. It doesn't
matter what language you write your programs in, the method for launching
them at startup will be the same. And appropriate to discuss in a Linux
group.

GTK+ - well this needs to be off-topic as well. The reason is that there are
simply too many C libraries for GUIs, signals processing, graphics, etc to
reasonable handle them. If C were a little niche language matters would be
different.

Please don't post this cookie-cutter with Asperger's links to reasonable
off-topic redirections. Just let the thread die or, if you don't like the
tone of the redirection and really must, say you don't like the tone.

--
Free games and programming goodies.
http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm

[Antoninus Twink]

To give more detail: a KDE/QT program when it starts would somehow
communicate with the session manager to arrange for it's state to be
saved and it would be restarted if the session was closed then reopened.

For a GTK+ 2 program, what is the right API to communicate with the
session manager?

In other words, how to turn this psuedocode into actual code?

if(running_under_kde == True) // communicate with session manager
{
provide_sm_with_save_state_callback(ss); // ss is a fnuction pointer
provide_sm_with_load_state_callback(ls); // ls is a fnuction pointer
}

Thanks!

On 28 Jul 2007 at 15:23, Walter Roberson wrote:

Antoninus Twink <di**********@in.validwrote:

>>I am writing a program using GTK+ 2. I'd like to register it with KDE's
session manager, ksmserver, so that it will start up once KDE is
restarted. How should I do that?

We don't know. If there is a KDE newsgroup or mailing list or web site,
they would probably know there. GTK and KDE and session managers
are not part of the C language, so we don't discuss them here.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <sl********************@nospam.invalid>,
Antoninus Twink <sp*****@invalid.comwrote:

>To give more detail: a KDE/QT program when it starts would somehow
communicate with the session manager to arrange for it's state to be
saved and it would be restarted if the session was closed then reopened.

For a GTK+ 2 program, what is the right API to communicate with the
session manager?

In other words, how to turn this psuedocode into actual code?

if(running_under_kde == True) // communicate with session manager
{
provide_sm_with_save_state_callback(ss); // ss is a fnuction pointer
provide_sm_with_load_state_callback(ls); // ls is a fnuction pointer
}

It's still (and let me be the first of many to point this out):

Off topic. Not portable. Cant discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

Useful clc-related links:
--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_programming_language

[Antoninus Twink]

Look, what the hell is your problem? I don't have Asberger's, OK.

On 28 Jul 2007 at 18:16, Kenny McCormack wrote:

In article <sl********************@nospam.invalid>,
Antoninus Twink <sp*****@invalid.comwrote:

>>To give more detail: a KDE/QT program when it starts would somehow
communicate with the session manager to arrange for it's state to be
saved and it would be restarted if the session was closed then reopened.

For a GTK+ 2 program, what is the right API to communicate with the
session manager?

In other words, how to turn this psuedocode into actual code?

if(running_under_kde == True) // communicate with session manager
{
provide_sm_with_save_state_callback(ss); // ss is a fnuction pointer
provide_sm_with_load_state_callback(ls); // ls is a fnuction pointer
}

It's still (and let me be the first of many to point this out):

Off topic. Not portable. Cant discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

Useful clc-related links:

[santosh]

Antoninus Twink wrote:

I am writing a program using GTK+ 2. I'd like to register it with KDE's
session manager, ksmserver, so that it will start up once KDE is
restarted. How should I do that?

We can't directly help you since this question is not topical. However try
the following links.

<http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/programming/gtk_examples/index.shtml>
<http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GTK+ProgrammingTips.html>
<http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/gnome-libs/gtk-programming.html>
<http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/>
<http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_id=12482&page=2>
<http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/vi....jsp?search_by
=gtk+fundamentals>

Also try these mailing lists:

<http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/>
<http://www.gtk.org/mailinglists.html>

You should also try the groups under <news:comp.os.unix.*and
<news:comp.os.linux.*hierarchies, perhaps like
<news:comp.os.linux.development.apps>

[Malcolm McLean]

"Antoninus Twink" <sp*****@invalid.comwrote in message
news:sl********************@nospam.invalid...

Look, what the hell is your problem? I don't have Asberger's, OK.

No. Kenny thinks that everyone who tries to enforce topicality has some sort
of personality problem. Apart from that little fobile basically he's a
constructive poster.

Unfortunately he's wrong. Personally I don't know (gnow?) anything about the
Knome GUI, but I'm sure there are some Linux buffs here who do. The problem
is that the newsgroup then becomes comp.everythingrelatedtoprogramming, and
there will be too many posts to read or maintain any sort of community. So
we redirect people to Linux groups. Your question has nothing to do with the
C language as such, and really precious little to do with the fact that your
program is written in C, though there might just be a C API that is a little
different from the facilities offered in other languages. clc isn't the
place for discussing this.

--
Free games and programming goodies.
http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm

[Richard Heathfield]

Malcolm McLean said:

>
"Antoninus Twink" <sp*****@invalid.comwrote in message
news:sl********************@nospam.invalid...

>Look, what the hell is your problem? I don't have Asberger's, OK.

No. Kenny thinks that everyone who tries to enforce topicality has
some sort of personality problem. Apart from that little fobile
basically he's a constructive poster.

Really? You could have fooled me.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Keith Thompson]

"Malcolm McLean" <re*******@btinternet.comwrites:

"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@xmission.xmission.comwrote in message
news:f8**********@news.xmission.In...

[the usual crud]

Please don't post this cookie-cutter with Asperger's links to
reasonable off-topic redirections. Just let the thread die or, if you
don't like the tone of the redirection and really must, say you don't
like the tone.

Please don't feed the troll. I suggest simply ignoring him, using a
killfile if necessary. KM is obviously determined to continue
publicliy humiliating himself; helping him to do so is in poor taste.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Keith Thompson]

Antoninus Twink <sp*****@invalid.comwrites:

Look, what the hell is your problem? I don't have Asberger's, OK.

[...]

Kenny McCormack is one of our resident trolls. Please ignore him.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <9q******************************@bt.com>,
Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrote:

>Malcolm McLean said:

>>
"Antoninus Twink" <sp*****@invalid.comwrote in message
news:sl********************@nospam.invalid...

>>Look, what the hell is your problem? I don't have Asberger's, OK.

No. Kenny thinks that everyone who tries to enforce topicality has
some sort of personality problem. Apart from that little fobile
basically he's a constructive poster.

Really? You could have fooled me.

That's not hard.

[Malcolm McLean]

"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@xmission.xmission.comwrote in message
news:f8*********@news.xmission.com...

Finally, let me advise you that you will find that the makeup of this
group can be summarized as:
1) About 6 (or so) hardcores
2) Another 6 (or so) HC sycophants
3) About 3 or 4 contrarians (also known as "trolls") - of which
I count myself a member.
4) An endless supply of newbies (presumably, the category in
which you fall)

Well I give up. I'm clearly not a 4, but which of 1, 2, 3 do I go in?

--
Free games and programming goodies.
http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm

[Richard Heathfield]

Malcolm McLean said:

>
"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@xmission.xmission.comwrote in message
news:f8*********@news.xmission.com...

>Finally, let me advise you that you will find that the makeup of this
group can be summarized as:
1) About 6 (or so) hardcores
2) Another 6 (or so) HC sycophants
3) About 3 or 4 contrarians (also known as "trolls") - of which
I count myself a member.
4) An endless supply of newbies (presumably, the category in
which you fall)

Well I give up. I'm clearly not a 4, but which of 1, 2, 3 do I go in?

None of the above. Mr McCormack's summary, like most of what he posts,
is incorrect.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <BO******************************@bt.com>,
Malcolm McLean <re*******@btinternet.comwrote:

>
"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@xmission.xmission.comwrote in message
news:f8*********@news.xmission.com...

>Finally, let me advise you that you will find that the makeup of this
group can be summarized as:
1) About 6 (or so) hardcores
2) Another 6 (or so) HC sycophants
3) About 3 or 4 contrarians (also known as "trolls") - of which
I count myself a member.
4) An endless supply of newbies (presumably, the category in
which you fall)

Well I give up. I'm clearly not a 4, but which of 1, 2, 3 do I go in?

Agreed that you're not a 4.
Assuming that you don't subscribe to the lunacy of the hardcores (groups
1 and 2), I think we can accept you as a provisional member of our
group. Welcome aboard!

Based on your postings so far, this looks like a good placement.

[Richard]

Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrites:

Malcolm McLean said:

>>
"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@xmission.xmission.comwrote in message
news:f8*********@news.xmission.com...

>>Finally, let me advise you that you will find that the makeup of this
group can be summarized as:
1) About 6 (or so) hardcores
2) Another 6 (or so) HC sycophants
3) About 3 or 4 contrarians (also known as "trolls") - of which
I count myself a member.
4) An endless supply of newbies (presumably, the category in
which you fall)

Well I give up. I'm clearly not a 4, but which of 1, 2, 3 do I go in?

None of the above. Mr McCormack's summary, like most of what he posts,
is incorrect.

Which part? It seemed like a reasonable assessment of this NG from where
I am sitting.

ps, Using a "debugger" which, I read in this NG , is unnecessary
"for any competent C programmer".

[Kelsey Bjarnason]

[snips]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:23:03 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:

Here's the deal. Although you have posted a perfectly reasonable C-related
question

Funny; from here it looked like his questions were about GTK and KDE.
Since these are - as you say - C-related, I'm sure you can show us where,
exactly, the C standard even mentions them.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <k6************@spanky.localhost.net>,
Kelsey Bjarnason <kb********@gmail.comwrote:

>[snips]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:23:03 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:

>Here's the deal. Although you have posted a perfectly reasonable C-related
question

Funny; from here it looked like his questions were about GTK and KDE.
Since these are - as you say - C-related, I'm sure you can show us where,
exactly, the C standard even mentions them.

I think this makes you a category 2.

[jacob navia]

Richard wrote:

Which part? It seemed like a reasonable assessment of this NG from where
I am sitting.

ps, Using a "debugger" which, I read in this NG , is unnecessary
"for any competent C programmer".

Wait you will surely not say that those geniuses of C will
use a "debugger"!!!

That would suppose that they *could* have bugs like everybody else!

OF COURSE NOT!

[David Thompson]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:22:08 +0000 (UTC), ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
(Walter Roberson) wrote:
<snip topicality>

This is not a newsgroup for programming "whatever can be programmed
in C, assuming implementation extensions to the language and
assuming various system-specific third-party libraries": this is
a newsgroup about the C language -without- system-specific extensions.
If you can't pick up your program and recompile it on (say) IBM MVS
then chances are that the program would not be considered topical here.

Well, if the program is clc-compliant (and doesn't exceed resource
limits) it should work when compiled and run on say MVS. And VMS.

But whether 'you' (the author of said program) has the skills and
resources to do so is a very different matter. For one thing, I don't
_think_ any versions of MVS are licensed on terms most individuals,
especially those posting here, could afford. (Although I think I
recall seeing that some of its most obsolete predecessors, like PCP,
are available for hobbyist use, and as good for verifying portation.)

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