Richard G. Riley wrote:[color=blue]
> On 2006-02-20, John Bode <john_bode@my-deja.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> Richard G. Riley wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On 2006-02-20, santosh <santosh.k83@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Richard G. Riley wrote:
>>>>> On 2006-02-18, santosh <santosh.k83@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
priyasmita_guha@yahoo.co.in wrote:
>>>>>>> Start with C go on to C++ and then on to JAVA.
>>>>>>> And you will C what how that helps.
>>>>>> The OP's question is not topical to this group. It would be better
>>>>>> answered in comp.programming among others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please try to redirect off topic questions rather than answering them
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is a perfectly valid question to ask C Programmers : many of whom
>>>>> will have experience in a wide array of other languages.
>>>> The regulars here, (naturally excluding me), strongly prefer, (and
>>>> rightly so, I must say), that this group remain devoted to the
>>>> discussion of the C langauge, as specified by it's standards.
>>> The regulars do not own the group and do not own usenet posting
>>> standards. Having said that I agree that decency and "standards" need
>>> to be maintained. Noone would disagree.
>>>
>>> It would take a complete idiot to suggest that asking C programmers
>>> how their language stacks up against Java & C++ for beginners is "off
>>> topic" for a C language newsgroup. It might, of course, be a bit
>>> biased though :) ...
>>>[/color]
>> I guess I'm a complete idiot, then. Comparing the features of multiple
>> languages is not the same as discussing a particular language.
>> Secondly, language comparison threads almost always degrade into
>> language advocacy threads, which are *definitely* off-topic and a waste
>> of bandwidth here.[/color]
>
> As you have proven. I simply provided a simple, quick answer. *shrug*[/color]
No, you argued that we should all switch over to your idea of what is
acceptable in the group.
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>>> There are questions all the time about algorithms too : algorithms are
>>> not "C Language". So lets not get our knickers in a twist here over a
>>> perfectly innocuous post.
>>>[/color]
>> I don't see any twisted knickers. I see a terse post redirecting the
>> OP to where he would get better quality answers.[/color]
>
> Assuming there are qualified C programmers there. Here is a VALID
> PLACE TO ASK C PROGRAMMERS. If you dont like the thread kill it.[/color]
As has been discussed many times, the effect of allowing off topic
threads is to destroy the group as came close to happening with
comp.lang.c++ a while back.
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> Clearly you would not ask in someplace like "linux kernel".[/color]
Why? Linux Kernel programmers are C programmers since the Kernel is
written in C + extensions, so surely by your argument that is a *great*
place to post the question.
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>>> We were all newbies once.[/color]
>> Yeah, and we were expected to check the FAQ, lurk for a while, and
>> generally not make asses of ourselves.[/color]
>
> I refer to his OP and my comments.[/color]
His OP does not say he has lurked and read the FAQ so I don't see the
relevance to the statement above. Nor did your response point out the
OPs error. So looking at those just shows you and the OP to be in the wrong.
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>>> And if the people who
>>> feel that is their job to patrol the posts dont like it then there are
>>> always administered forums where their luminance can shine brightest
>>> and undimmed by slightly "OT" posts or newbies using googlegroups.
>>>[/color]
>> Okay, there it is. Why the hell is it every time the regulars try to
>> keep this group minimally on topic, someone always writes *that exact
>> phrase*?[/color]
>
> Because there are levels of administration. And because, ufortunately,
> in NGs certain people take themselves far too seriously. You can
> killfile, ignore or reply. Only in dire trolling cases is it wise to
> killfile IMO.[/color]
This group has a clearly defined focus. If you don't like the focus
there are plenty of other groups you you can create your own.
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> Not really. Since all advocacy groups are full of kooks : here should be
> full of epxerienced C programmers looking to help the less
> enlightened. And I think it is interesting to hear a C programmer
> recommened the C LANGUAGE for beginners. Bugger all off topic old chum.[/color]
It is clearly off topic if you bother to lurk and read all the pointer
to topicality around here. I even have one in my sig. From there you
will find links to posts explaining why the group has and maintains a
tight focus.
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> Clearly I have made the mistake of being too open minded in
> replying/offering help.[/color]
You have clearly failed to accept the well established focus of the
group when it was pointed out to you.
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