A good C Programming book.

Hi all,

During my degree, BEng (Hons) Electronics and Communications Engineering, we
did C programming every year, but I never kept it up, as I had no interest
and didn't see the point. But now I really want to get back into it as I see
a point with GNU/Linux. I want to get my old skills back and write something
or help on some projects etc.

I need some good books. I used to have one called "A Book On C", but sold
it,
and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted
websites.

Anyone have any recommendations?

One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more with
GNU/Linux?

Thanks for your time,

- --
Regards

http://www.magicfx.co.uk
http://www.suretecsystems.com

G.,

There are many aspects to consider when choosing a C book. "Problem Solving
and Program Design in C" (Hanly J., Koffman E.) is a very good one, for
beg./int. level; "C Programming Language" (Kernighan B., Ritchie D.) is also
a very good. If the person has clearly no idea of C, programming and
programming logic, I would say "C for Dummies" (Gookin D.)would be the best.
(Many will scream at me for that, sorry!).
Regarding your choice between C and C++....hard to say, even with "Which
will benefit me more with GNU/Linux?"
Depending on what type of application you will develop in Linux, C++ (object
oriented) might be better. But if what you will be doing is apply changes to
the kernel, or help out with current projects, C is better (as for they
currently use it).
My answer is: I don't know. (But I use C!) ;)

Hope I've helped.
Leo Custodio
aliensprite@hotmail.com

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"Leo Custodio" <lcustoc611@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:H4lIb.170199$2We1.7251@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...[color=blue]
> G.,
>
> There are many aspects to consider when choosing a C book. "Problem[/color]
Solving[color=blue]
> and Program Design in C" (Hanly J., Koffman E.) is a very good one, for
> beg./int. level; "C Programming Language" (Kernighan B., Ritchie D.) is[/color]
also[color=blue]
> a very good. If the person has clearly no idea of C, programming and
> programming logic, I would say "C for Dummies" (Gookin D.)would be the[/color]
best.[color=blue]
> (Many will scream at me for that, sorry!).
> Regarding your choice between C and C++....hard to say, even with "Which
> will benefit me more with GNU/Linux?"
> Depending on what type of application you will develop in Linux, C++[/color]
(object[color=blue]
> oriented) might be better. But if what you will be doing is apply changes[/color]
to[color=blue]
> the kernel, or help out with current projects, C is better (as for they
> currently use it).
> My answer is: I don't know. (But I use C!) ;)[/color]

I decided to get a cheap one off ebay, and I got "Practical C++ Programming"
by O'reilly for £6, I am looking for the K&R one and the "Practical C
Programming" by O'reilly too. I think I will start with C first, as I am
familar with it, and general programming practice, then when/if I do some
gui work, start on C++.

Thanks for your time,

Gavin.
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>
> Hope I've helped.
> Leo Custodio
> aliensprite@hotmail.com
>
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[snip][color=blue]
>
> I'd say that K.N. King's book: C a modern approach is a much, much
> better choice for this person. Gookin's Apple II books weren't all that
> hot either.[/color]

I will check this one out too.

Thanks.

G. wrote:[color=blue]
> I decided to get a cheap one off ebay, and I got "Practical C++ Programming"
> by O'reilly for £6, I am looking for the K&R one and the "Practical C
> Programming" by O'reilly too.[/color]

"Practical C Programming" might not be a wise buy, actually. Same with
"Practical C++ Programming". Neither got good reviews by the ACCU
(Association of C and C++ Users), which is generally held in high regard.

http://www.accu.org/cgi-bin/accu/rvo...&file=p001735a
-- Review of "Practical C Programming"
http://www.accu.org/cgi-bin/accu/rvo...&file=p001010a
-- Review of "Practical C++ Programming"
Both got a "Not Recommended" rating.
http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/publ.../0hr/index.htm
-- "Highly Recommended" works, indexed by subject.
http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/public/
-- ACCU reviews index
[color=blue]
> I think I will start with C first, as I am
> familar with it, and general programming practice, then when/if I do some
> gui work, start on C++.[/color]

Don't try to use C as a stepping-stone to C++. It won't work. Good C++
progams are not good C programs, and vice-versa.

In fact, don't think of C++ as a descendent of C. Think of it more like
a distant cousin or nephew. It's changed so much from when it was built
on top of C, to the point where a conformant C program is no longer
guaranteed to compile, or work correctly when compiled, in a C++
environment.

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:18:58 -0000
"G." <newsgroups@ghenry.plus.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I decided to get a cheap one off ebay, and I got "Practical C++ Programming"
> by O'reilly for £6, I am looking for the K&R one and the "Practical C
> Programming" by O'reilly too. I think I will start with C first, as I am
> familar with it, and general programming practice, then when/if I do some
> gui work, start on C++.[/color]

You don't have to do GUI work in C++. X, GTK, motif, etc, are all done
in C. As far as books go:

"The Standard C Library" by P.J. Plauger
K&R _second_edition_
"The C Answer Book" by Tondo & Gimpel
C FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html by Steve Summit

/*OT
* "The UNIX Programming Environment" by Kernighan & Pike
* "Software Tools" by Kernighan & Plauger
* "Programming Perls" & "More Programming Perls" by Jon Bentley
* Any and everything that W. Richard Stevens ever wrote
OT*/

--
donLouis

"August Derleth" <email@for.address> wrote in message
news:lTqIb.1$C93.0@fe10...[color=blue]
> G. wrote:[color=green]
> > I decided to get a cheap one off ebay, and I got "Practical C++[/color][/color]
Programming"[color=blue][color=green]
> > by O'reilly for £6, I am looking for the K&R one and the "Practical C
> > Programming" by O'reilly too.[/color]
>
> "Practical C Programming" might not be a wise buy, actually. Same with
> "Practical C++ Programming". Neither got good reviews by the ACCU
> (Association of C and C++ Users), which is generally held in high regard.
>
> http://www.accu.org/cgi-bin/accu/rvo...&file=p001735a
> -- Review of "Practical C Programming"
> http://www.accu.org/cgi-bin/accu/rvo...&file=p001010a
> -- Review of "Practical C++ Programming"
> Both got a "Not Recommended" rating.
> http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/publ.../0hr/index.htm
> -- "Highly Recommended" works, indexed by subject.
> http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/public/
> -- ACCU reviews index
>[color=green]
> > I think I will start with C first, as I am
> > familar with it, and general programming practice, then when/if I do[/color][/color]
some[color=blue][color=green]
> > gui work, start on C++.[/color]
>
> Don't try to use C as a stepping-stone to C++. It won't work. Good C++
> progams are not good C programs, and vice-versa.
>
> In fact, don't think of C++ as a descendent of C. Think of it more like
> a distant cousin or nephew. It's changed so much from when it was built
> on top of C, to the point where a conformant C program is no longer
> guaranteed to compile, or work correctly when compiled, in a C++
> environment.[/color]

I have read over the accu site and it sounds like the C++ is rubbish. I have
bid on the K&R one, as everyone recommends that. Well that other C++ was a
waste of money. I will also stick with C just now as that's what I kind of
know.

Thanks,

Gavin.

"G." <newsgroups@ghenry.plus.com> wrote in message news:<TkkIb.6838$tQ6.73130@wards.force9.net>...[color=blue]
> Hi all,
>
> During my degree, BEng (Hons) Electronics and Communications Engineering, we
> did C programming every year, but I never kept it up, as I had no interest
> and didn't see the point. But now I really want to get back into it as I see
> a point with GNU/Linux. I want to get my old skills back and write something
> or help on some projects etc.
>
> I need some good books. I used to have one called "A Book On C", but sold
> it,
> and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted
> websites.
>
> Anyone have any recommendations?[/color]

"A Book on C" is a very good primer on C. Selling it was definitely a bad
decision. Look forward to get it back again.

Other books of interest are:
1> C Primer Plus, 4th edition - Stephen Prata. Sams
2> C : How to Program, 3rd or 4th edition - Deitel & Deitel
3> The C Programming Language, ANSI C 2nd edition - K&R
4> C Traps and Pitfalls - Andrew Koenig
5> Practice of Programming - Kernighan & Pike
6> Code Complete - Steve McConnell, Microsoft Press
7> Applications Programming in ANSI C, 3rd ed. - Johnsonbaugh & Kalin
8> C Programming FAQs - Steve Summit
9> C Unleashed - Richard Heathfield et al. (level: advanced)
10> How to Solve it by Computer
11> The Standard C Library - Plauger
12> C : A Reference Manual - Harbison & Steele, 5th ed.
13> Expert C Programming : Deep C Secters - Peter van der Linden
14> The Art Of Computer Programming, 3 volumes - Knuth
15> C Interfaces and Implementations : Techniques for Creating Reusable
Software - David Hanson ( Haven't read it myself, yet)
16> Algorithms in C, part 1-5 - Sedgewick
17> Inner Loops - Rick Booth
18> Programming Pearls, 2nd ed. - John Bentley
19> The C Puzzle Book - Feuer (haven't read it either)
20> Data Structures Using C - Tanenbaum, Langsam

It's always possible to get more books than you can read.
However, almost all of the above mentioned ones are, IMHO, classics.
If you'll be using UNIX/Linux as your development platorm, you should also
consider getting a few of these books:

1> Advanced Programming in UNIX Environment - Richard Stevens
2> UNIX Network Programming, 2nd ed. vol-1,2 - Richard Stevens
3> TCP/IP Illustrated, vol-1,2,3 - Richard Stevens
4> The UNIX Programming Environment - Kernighan & Pike
5> The Art of UNIX Programming - Eric S. Raymond
6> Linux Kernel Internals - Beck, et al.

Plus, books on Tcl/Tk, Perl, Python, GCC and Linux API are added advantage.
[color=blue]
> One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more with
> GNU/Linux?
>[/color]

It's good for you to start with C. UNIX and Linux are mostly C based operating
systems, except some C++ code in X clients like KDE. However, it's considered
bad to stick to any one programming language. To get the most from UNIX or
Linux systems, you'll have to learn to work with a plethora of utilities,
shells, scripting languages, interpreters and compiled languages.

A very happy new year to all of you!
Regards,
Manish

"G." <newsgroups@ghenry.plus.com> wrote in message
news:TkkIb.6838$tQ6.73130@wards.force9.net...[color=blue]
> Hi all,
>
> During my degree, BEng (Hons) Electronics and Communications Engineering,[/color]
we[color=blue]
> did C programming every year, but I never kept it up, as I had no interest
> and didn't see the point. But now I really want to get back into it as I[/color]
see[color=blue]
> a point with GNU/Linux. I want to get my old skills back and write[/color]
something[color=blue]
> or help on some projects etc.
>
> I need some good books. I used to have one called "A Book On C", but sold
> it,
> and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted
> websites.
>
> Anyone have any recommendations?
>
> One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more[/color]
with[color=blue]
> GNU/Linux?
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> - --
> Regards
>
> http://www.magicfx.co.uk
> http://www.suretecsystems.com
>[/color]

I keep in my arsenal of C books a very good reference text. It won't teach
you good programming skills, but it will have information handy when you
have a good C question. Its organzation of information is very good.

Harbison, Samuel P., and Guy L. Steele Jr. 'C A reference Manual'. 4th Ed.
New Jersey: Prentice Hall, 1995.

Michael Steve

Hello there, being a newbie to C and the forum, I've been reading these post
and have another suggestion for you.
I am currently on my 2nd year Meng and learning the dreaded C/C++.
I have some of the books noted and all have been very useful, but here is
another suggestion that I came across last year, it comes in the from of
training videos from http://www.vtc.com/uk.php
The C programming vids are extremely useful, don't rate the C++ though.
With full working programs and exercises as well as a course project to work
through it has helped me out when stuck.
Only problem is the price!!!!
"G." <newsgroups@ghenry.plus.com> wrote in message
news:TkkIb.6838$tQ6.73130@wards.force9.net...[color=blue]
> Hi all,
>
> During my degree, BEng (Hons) Electronics and Communications Engineering,[/color]
we[color=blue]
> did C programming every year, but I never kept it up, as I had no interest
> and didn't see the point. But now I really want to get back into it as I[/color]
see[color=blue]
> a point with GNU/Linux. I want to get my old skills back and write[/color]
something[color=blue]
> or help on some projects etc.
>
> I need some good books. I used to have one called "A Book On C", but sold
> it,
> and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted
> websites.
>
> Anyone have any recommendations?
>
> One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more[/color]
with[color=blue]
> GNU/Linux?
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> - --
> Regards
>
> http://www.magicfx.co.uk
> http://www.suretecsystems.com
>
>[/color]

"Rod" <rhodri.bowen@ntlworld.com> writes:
[color=blue]
> I am currently on my 2nd year Meng and learning the dreaded C/C++.[/color]

Really? You'll have to let the rest of us know where we can find
out more about this language.
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\n",*q="kl BIcNBFr.NKEzjwCIxNJC";int i=sizeof p/2;char *strchr();int putchar(\
);while(*q){i+=strchr(p,*q++)-p;if(i>=(int)sizeof p)i-=sizeof p-1;putchar(p[i]\
);}return 0;}

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:33:56 -0800, Manish Singh wrote:[color=blue]
> 6> Linux Kernel Internals - Beck, et al.[/color]

This is outdated! Instead get both this two:
1) Understanding the Linux Kernel, 2nd Ed.
by Cesati, Bovet - O'Reilly
2) IA-64 Linux Kernel: Design and Implementation
by mosberger, eranian - Prentice Hall

Then you should read Kernel Traffic at http://kt.zork.net
and if you're a beginner at kernel hacking subscribe to
http://www.kernelnewbies.org mailing list.

Then if you need more, ask elsewhere because this is
off-topic here! :) try on alt.os.development or comp.unix.internals.

Bye
Daniele

Hi

Seen ur qurey. Hope u need sound understanding in c programming. If
u r interested to improve ur knowledge in c follow this book. "C with
software Engineering Approach" by Peter A Darnel.

Cheers!

Anand.