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Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews

Benjamin Disraeli
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#1: Nov 13 '05
The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
question
that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
are there
so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
they are
a superior race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
Shockley's
fallacy that blacks are inferior? Do the jews have greater stamina
than
others?

Who is Benjamin Disraeli? Who is Marx, Who is Freud (Fraud)? Who is
Felix Klein and which country did he live a life of great freedom in?
How did USA got dragged into WW1? Who are neturei karta? visit
www.nkusa.org, and sites pointed from there to find more truth with
solid evidence. These questions are all interlinked and will give you
comprehensive and consistent perspective. Do a search on my articles
on google to find some of the answers. View the documentary, "Queen
Victoria's England".

The worst enemy is the doctor who misdiagnoses a problem and
prescribes a
wrong medicine. Medication that not only ignores the existing ailment
but also adds side-effects for a malady that does not exist.

If you find anything offensive, refute it and give us a chance to
modify these views -- but only based on solid supporting arguments.
Internet is not censored by vested interests.

-----

[color=blue]
> Prime Minister Sharon's visit to India is
> unbelievable. No matter what we may think
> about him, we must acknowledge that
> contributions of Jewish people from the time
> of antiquities to the prsent day in all walks
> of human endeavour are extraordinary.[/color]

This is a false conclusion of a mind blinded by a
dog bone thrown by Sharon. Not one jew in India
or the middle-east made any significant contribution.
For thousands of years jews failed to invent the
positional number system despite their fierce work in
money-lending. They failed to invent algebra. Certainly,
they learnt a lot from the people they lived among and
back-stabbed them. For example, Germany, the land of
Aryan race was the leading country in Europe. They
learnt much from it, yet they back-stabbed a winning
Germany of WW1 to get the land of Palestine and
maneouvered US into WW1 to defeat Germany. Not
only this, they got a lot of practical hands-on
training in precision building of large monuments
from pharaonic egyptians. In the past few centuries
they are motivated solely by weapons for armageddon.
[color=blue]
> Look at their names in religious life, arts,
> literature, philosophy, technology and science
> etc.. They have shown they are second to none
> in their love and sacrifice in blood for their
> country and society.[/color]

Much of the European science is financed on the
money of the colonies and jews were not motivated
by science but the power it gives to fight their wars.
As a matter of fact a jew disclosed to me the shocking
truth, "the purpose of a university is not to educate,
but to prepare for war." And he said that in a most
serious and a deep manner, So it is the Armageddon
that Technion, Weizmann and others are involved in
with enticing coverup stories.
[color=blue]
> Sure, they have made few mistakes during the
> past decades when dealing with Palestanians.
> It will pass it will only be a footnote in history.[/color]

There is no possibility of this in sight. This
one is not going to end like South Africa with
"truth and reconciliation," and those south african
whites not wanting to stay, leaving for
US/Australia/Europe.

Sharon is in India to prepare for "the final solution"
which is going to be the Armageddon. Not for nothing,
it is in every religious scripture so much about
jews. He is going to bring mischief to India as Jews
brought misery, war and revolutions to Germany, Russia
and every place that gave them refuge and prosperity.
THEIR ORIGINS ARE DEEPLY TAINTED WITH FRATRICIDE AND
BACK-STABBING. JUST STUDY WHAT JACOB'S SONS DID TO
THEIR OWN BROTHER AND FOR WHAT REASON!!!
[color=blue]
> Palestanians will be better off with Israelies
> as friends and neighbours than other Arabs who have
> not given them even a refuge when it was most needed.[/color]

If they do give refuge, Israel will only expand.
This one is an expansionist beast and has no real
intent on making peace. Israel cannot accept
democracy to make peace like South Africa. Its
axiom is apartheid. Religious equality is basic
to a democracy.
[color=blue]
> Indians should learn something from Israelies
> how to build a formidable little modern
> society out of desert sand by sheer hardwork.[/color]

India should learn not to build a society that
can be held together only by hate and fear but based
on principles of Vedas and Ghandhi. One thing we
can learn from jewish scriptures is that devil always
brings evil in very fine wrappings. The devil's rep has
actually shown the sign of this right below:

-----[color=blue]
>
> "pund kamath" <pund_kamath@hotmail.com> wrote[color=green]
> > Prime Minister Sharon's visit to India is unbelievable.[/color]
>
> Dear Pund,
> It's a logical visit. The Jews, after 50
> years of being spit on by Europe and the US
> (in a lesser way) , have taken the logical turn
> East to find people with similar interest.[/color]

Can you see what he considers billions of US aid
and veto usage in every security council resolution
condemnation as "spitting". These are a bunch of
ungrateful people who will NEVER BE SATISFIED,
no matter what you do for them. Newyorkers get the
title of rudeness from the jews that are in them.
Most Italian newyorkers are actually very polite.
Only jews are generally rude with characteristic
newengland accent.

And while Irgun talks of east, China did not trust
them nor have they done well with moslem easterners -
I understand Jew+Moslem is another story of fratricide of
these evil children of abram!!!!???? Not only this,
their First fore-father abram was the biggest hater
of hinduism and statues. I must conclude that the
jews are the biggest enemies of hindus. The main
accomplishment on abram's resume was breaking idols.
They need us because they are actually weak. They
are weak because of the presence of Europe and Christian.
They need our demographic strength to counter the Christians
and that is why they are making alliance with NRIs.
They will help using their influence to multiply their
power by snatching from the mouth of the christians,
impoverish them, and give us - for a while - but
where will it ultimately lead to!!!???

Consider their history and any alliance as a math problem.
Open your eyes and look from any side, you find
terrible problems. But the wrappings
are deceptively beautiful indeed. I am sure Advani is
having orgasms just thinking about phalcon.
[color=blue]
> As the great master of diplomacy, the Frenchman
> Talleyrand put it, ""Nations have no permanent
> friends, only permanent interests""[/color]

And Irgun has made this his own modus operandi and
indeed if it is in their interest to go to US and drag it
into WW1 to defeat the Germany that gave them refuge, so
be it for the land of Palestine, from Britian. If Russians
can be brought under control by a false communist lullaby,
that is right too. If Britian can be brought under control
by pretense of workers rights, that is fair enough for
a Benjamin Disraeli and if India's wealth is necessary
to be looted for planned palestinian conquest, Disraeli
would go and buy Suez to ensure that India is securely
colonized.

In yesteryears, the interest of the zionists outside
Germany was to send jewish brothers and mothers to Aushwitz
and they did it. Neturei Karta site will give you all the
evidence you want.

Just make sure that your path does not cross with
jews'. India better had enough cannon fodder to
sacrifice at their altar when the time comes!!!
[color=blue]
> irgun43
>[/color]

Even their own god elohim cursed them and sent them to
an exile. Their god gotta be the biggest anti-semite out
Uncle Al
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#2: Nov 13 '05

re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews


Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[color=blue]
>
> The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> question
> that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> are there
> so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
> they are
> a superior race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
> Shockley's
> fallacy that blacks are inferior? Do the jews have greater stamina
> than
> others?[/color]

They have Jewish mothers. Read "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth.
Chinese mothers are equally lethal and man-hating. That Jews from the
Pale of Settlement average 115 IQs doesn't hurt. That Hitler killed
off the bottom 90% of the bell curve for European Jews doesn't hurt
either - evolution is a hoot if you are one of the survivors. The
best of the best emigrated to the New World and were scythed again by
anti-Semitism. The survivors are intellectually superior in every way
(on the average).

Selective breeding works the other way, too. The absolutely most
stupid Blacks in West Africa were captured by their marginally more
intelligent and vicious brethren, then sold to Arabs who in turn sold
them to the Triangular Trade and New World slavery. Uppity Darkies
were weeded out. The result is US Inner Cities as celebrations of
ethnic diversity.

[snip]

--
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(Do something naughty to physics)
Malcolm
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"Benjamin Disraeli" <thedisraeli@hotmail.com> wrote in message[color=blue]
> The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> question that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will
> encounter. Why are there so many disproportionate number of jews in
> sciences?[/color]

< huge snip >

Judging from the other groups on the list, the OP obviously thinks that C
programming is a science.

The clc community is focussed on technical issues and political agitation
has no place here, particularly when it is of a type calculated to incite
hatred against people on the basis of their ethnic or religious group.


Mark Tarka
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<3F613B70.1518535C@hate.spam.net>...[color=blue]
> Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > question
> > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > are there
> > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
> > they are
> > a superior race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
> > Shockley's
> > fallacy that blacks are inferior? Do the jews have greater stamina
> > than
> > others?[/color]
>
> They have Jewish mothers. Read "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth.
> Chinese mothers are equally lethal and man-hating. That Jews from the
> Pale of Settlement average 115 IQs doesn't hurt. That Hitler killed
> off the bottom 90% of the bell curve for European Jews doesn't hurt
> either - evolution is a hoot if you are one of the survivors. The
> best of the best emigrated to the New World and were scythed again by
> anti-Semitism. The survivors are intellectually superior in every way
> (on the average).[/color]

Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer...are
these examples of intellectually superior Jews? Their
current script looks like a soap-opera plot, at best,
a "Dallas" episode -- feminists and Jews _against_ Islam
and for _shopping_.

A little speaky-speaky would be appreciated, Uncle :-)
[color=blue]
> Selective breeding works the other way, too. The absolutely most
> stupid Blacks in West Africa were captured by their marginally more
> intelligent and vicious brethren, then sold to Arabs who in turn sold
> them to the Triangular Trade and New World slavery. Uppity Darkies
> were weeded out. The result is US Inner Cities as celebrations of
> ethnic diversity.[/color]

You may have missed something here. I had found
a book in the trash...by Kurt Vonnegut...about
blacks (the narrator was the son of a well-to-
do family; worked as a pharmacist at the end;
perhaps someone knows the title :-)
[color=blue]
>
> [snip][/color]


Mark (this space intentionally left blank)
hanson
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#5: Nov 13 '05

re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews


"Mark Tarka" <mark_tarka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6b70c71c.0309161338.1ddc9eda@posting.google.c om...[color=blue]
> Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message[/color]
news:<3F613B70.1518535C@hate.spam.net>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > The following article, written for a different purpose
> > > answers the question that people in colleges, academia
> > > and sciences will encounter. Why are there so many
> > > disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
> > > they are a superior race and conversely lending a superior
> > > race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
> > > Shockley's fallacy that blacks are inferior?
> > > Do the jews have greater stamina than others?
> > >[/color][/color][/color]

Benjamin, no, no, and no. Jews are simply LOUDER then the goyim.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > They have Jewish mothers. Read "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth.[/color][/color]

"[Jews] have Jewish mothers"......ahahahaha ....heavy, profound....
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Chinese mothers are equally lethal and man-hating. That Jews from the
> > Pale of Settlement average 115 IQs doesn't hurt. That Hitler killed
> > off the bottom 90% of the bell curve for European Jews doesn't hurt
> > either - evolution is a hoot if you are one of the survivors. The best
> > of the best emigrated to the New World and were scythed again by
> > anti-Semitism.[/color][/color]

The root of anti-Semitism are Jews themselves. The loud and obnoxious
ones amongst the Jewry are the very cause of anti-Semitism. And it's also
these very same loud ones who are the first and the last ones to cry and
whine about anti-Semitism. The saving grace about their loudness is that
it serves an immensely important function in/for a free society. If the Jews
were to disappear or alter their behavior, then that vacuum is filled fast by
all kinds of reverends of the Fallwell/Robertson/Jackson style. Such an
alternative is far more unpalatable to me then the loud, obnoxious and
free wheeling Jew circus....
To me the Jews' endless fight for individual rights before and over everything
else has great appeal and value to me, and to boot, they are fucking funny.
But when US-Jews announce that they are first Jews loyal to Israel, and
then only do they have their homeland's, the US of A's, interests in their
mind and heart, then I respect them about as much as the German Bund
folks were respected here during WWII.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > The survivors are intellectually superior in every way (on the average).
> >[/color][/color]

Yeah, yeah..... on the average,...which according to you means that 50%
of Jews are more stupid then the goyim around them.......ahahahah.....
........which manifests even in these NG's. Some Jew's in here are real
blossoms...... not even close to an average of any sort.......ahahahaha...
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[/color]
>
> Donald Rumsfeld, ........
>[/color]

Mark, I don't think he is Jewish. On the eve of the Iraq war CNN reporters
went to query Rummy's relatives in Hamburg, Germany, where one
of his nephews commented that his uncle Donald had seen "better times".
[color=blue]
> ...... Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer...are
> these examples of intellectually superior Jews? Their
> current script looks like a soap-opera plot, at best,
> a "Dallas" episode -- feminists and Jews _against_ Islam
> and for _shopping_.
>
> A little speaky-speaky would be appreciated, Uncle :-)
>[color=green]
> > Selective breeding works the other way, too. The absolutely most
> > stupid Blacks in West Africa were captured by their marginally more
> > intelligent and vicious brethren, then sold to Arabs who in turn sold
> > them to the Triangular Trade and New World slavery. Uppity Darkies
> > were weeded out. The result is US Inner Cities as celebrations of
> > ethnic diversity.[/color]
>[/color]
Al, if it were that clear cut, then all the world's ethnic interaction problems
would have been disappeared long, long ago, if not by evolution itself.
Besides, why are you making a big deal about pure bread Jew(remnants)?
Jews are the most mongrelized faction of humankind.
There is nothing genetically special or unique about being "Jewish". Today,
Judaism is only a fate/faith personally *selected* by each individual Jew.
The fact that Jews stand out from the crowd is because, as said,
they are simply louder, which is the result of their culture/schul type. This,
their own environment brought about their high visibility for the past two
generations. But now their show has apexed, it's ending, as you, yourself,
have reluctantly pointed out between your lines.
So, yes, remember, all good things that went up must come down......
.....even your proclaimed "intellectually superior[ity]".

Only the millenium, your despised stooopid masses, they will always be
here, perennially like the grass, and they will make you work for them....
**** You just haven't discovered or not accepted that fact yet.****
ahahhahahaha.........ahahahahahanson
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> >
> > [snip][/color]
>
>
> Mark (this space intentionally left blank)[/color]

ratman@execpc.com
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#6: Nov 13 '05

re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews


Never heard so many dumb opinions. Jews are just like the
rest of us...only more successful for some reason.


On 11 Sep 2003 18:58:14 -0700, thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin
Disraeli) wrote:
[color=blue]
>The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
>question
>that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
>are there
>so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
>they are
>a superior race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
>Shockley's
>fallacy that blacks are inferior? Do the jews have greater stamina
>than
>others?
>
>Who is Benjamin Disraeli? Who is Marx, Who is Freud (Fraud)? Who is
>Felix Klein and which country did he live a life of great freedom in?
>How did USA got dragged into WW1? Who are neturei karta? visit
>www.nkusa.org, and sites pointed from there to find more truth with
>solid evidence. These questions are all interlinked and will give you
>comprehensive and consistent perspective. Do a search on my articles
>on google to find some of the answers. View the documentary, "Queen
>Victoria's England".
>
>The worst enemy is the doctor who misdiagnoses a problem and
>prescribes a
>wrong medicine. Medication that not only ignores the existing ailment
>but also adds side-effects for a malady that does not exist.
>
>If you find anything offensive, refute it and give us a chance to
>modify these views -- but only based on solid supporting arguments.
>Internet is not censored by vested interests.
>
>-----
>
>[color=green]
>> Prime Minister Sharon's visit to India is
>> unbelievable. No matter what we may think
>> about him, we must acknowledge that
>> contributions of Jewish people from the time
>> of antiquities to the prsent day in all walks
>> of human endeavour are extraordinary.[/color]
>
>This is a false conclusion of a mind blinded by a
>dog bone thrown by Sharon. Not one jew in India
>or the middle-east made any significant contribution.
>For thousands of years jews failed to invent the
>positional number system despite their fierce work in
>money-lending. They failed to invent algebra. Certainly,
>they learnt a lot from the people they lived among and
>back-stabbed them. For example, Germany, the land of
>Aryan race was the leading country in Europe. They
>learnt much from it, yet they back-stabbed a winning
>Germany of WW1 to get the land of Palestine and
>maneouvered US into WW1 to defeat Germany. Not
>only this, they got a lot of practical hands-on
>training in precision building of large monuments
>from pharaonic egyptians. In the past few centuries
>they are motivated solely by weapons for armageddon.
>[color=green]
>> Look at their names in religious life, arts,
>> literature, philosophy, technology and science
>> etc.. They have shown they are second to none
>> in their love and sacrifice in blood for their
>> country and society.[/color]
>
>Much of the European science is financed on the
>money of the colonies and jews were not motivated
>by science but the power it gives to fight their wars.
>As a matter of fact a jew disclosed to me the shocking
>truth, "the purpose of a university is not to educate,
>but to prepare for war." And he said that in a most
>serious and a deep manner, So it is the Armageddon
>that Technion, Weizmann and others are involved in
>with enticing coverup stories.
>[color=green]
>> Sure, they have made few mistakes during the
>> past decades when dealing with Palestanians.
>> It will pass it will only be a footnote in history.[/color]
>
>There is no possibility of this in sight. This
>one is not going to end like South Africa with
>"truth and reconciliation," and those south african
>whites not wanting to stay, leaving for
>US/Australia/Europe.
>
>Sharon is in India to prepare for "the final solution"
>which is going to be the Armageddon. Not for nothing,
>it is in every religious scripture so much about
>jews. He is going to bring mischief to India as Jews
>brought misery, war and revolutions to Germany, Russia
>and every place that gave them refuge and prosperity.
>THEIR ORIGINS ARE DEEPLY TAINTED WITH FRATRICIDE AND
>BACK-STABBING. JUST STUDY WHAT JACOB'S SONS DID TO
>THEIR OWN BROTHER AND FOR WHAT REASON!!!
>[color=green]
>> Palestanians will be better off with Israelies
>> as friends and neighbours than other Arabs who have
>> not given them even a refuge when it was most needed.[/color]
>
>If they do give refuge, Israel will only expand.
>This one is an expansionist beast and has no real
>intent on making peace. Israel cannot accept
>democracy to make peace like South Africa. Its
>axiom is apartheid. Religious equality is basic
>to a democracy.
>[color=green]
>> Indians should learn something from Israelies
>> how to build a formidable little modern
>> society out of desert sand by sheer hardwork.[/color]
>
>India should learn not to build a society that
>can be held together only by hate and fear but based
>on principles of Vedas and Ghandhi. One thing we
>can learn from jewish scriptures is that devil always
>brings evil in very fine wrappings. The devil's rep has
>actually shown the sign of this right below:
>
>-----[color=green]
>>
>> "pund kamath" <pund_kamath@hotmail.com> wrote[color=darkred]
>> > Prime Minister Sharon's visit to India is unbelievable.[/color]
>>
>> Dear Pund,
>> It's a logical visit. The Jews, after 50
>> years of being spit on by Europe and the US
>> (in a lesser way) , have taken the logical turn
>> East to find people with similar interest.[/color]
>
>Can you see what he considers billions of US aid
>and veto usage in every security council resolution
>condemnation as "spitting". These are a bunch of
>ungrateful people who will NEVER BE SATISFIED,
>no matter what you do for them. Newyorkers get the
>title of rudeness from the jews that are in them.
>Most Italian newyorkers are actually very polite.
>Only jews are generally rude with characteristic
>newengland accent.
>
>And while Irgun talks of east, China did not trust
>them nor have they done well with moslem easterners -
>I understand Jew+Moslem is another story of fratricide of
>these evil children of abram!!!!???? Not only this,
>their First fore-father abram was the biggest hater
>of hinduism and statues. I must conclude that the
>jews are the biggest enemies of hindus. The main
>accomplishment on abram's resume was breaking idols.
>They need us because they are actually weak. They
>are weak because of the presence of Europe and Christian.
>They need our demographic strength to counter the Christians
>and that is why they are making alliance with NRIs.
>They will help using their influence to multiply their
>power by snatching from the mouth of the christians,
>impoverish them, and give us - for a while - but
>where will it ultimately lead to!!!???
>
>Consider their history and any alliance as a math problem.
>Open your eyes and look from any side, you find
>terrible problems. But the wrappings
>are deceptively beautiful indeed. I am sure Advani is
>having orgasms just thinking about phalcon.
>[color=green]
>> As the great master of diplomacy, the Frenchman
>> Talleyrand put it, ""Nations have no permanent
>> friends, only permanent interests""[/color]
>
>And Irgun has made this his own modus operandi and
>indeed if it is in their interest to go to US and drag it
>into WW1 to defeat the Germany that gave them refuge, so
>be it for the land of Palestine, from Britian. If Russians
>can be brought under control by a false communist lullaby,
>that is right too. If Britian can be brought under control
>by pretense of workers rights, that is fair enough for
>a Benjamin Disraeli and if India's wealth is necessary
>to be looted for planned palestinian conquest, Disraeli
>would go and buy Suez to ensure that India is securely
>colonized.
>
>In yesteryears, the interest of the zionists outside
>Germany was to send jewish brothers and mothers to Aushwitz
>and they did it. Neturei Karta site will give you all the
>evidence you want.
>
>Just make sure that your path does not cross with
>jews'. India better had enough cannon fodder to
>sacrifice at their altar when the time comes!!!
>[color=green]
>> irgun43
>>[/color]
>
>Even their own god elohim cursed them and sent them to
>an exile. Their god gotta be the biggest anti-semite out[/color]

wired
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mark_tarka@yahoo.com (Mark Tarka) wrote in message news:<6b70c71c.0309161338.1ddc9eda@posting.google. com>...

<snip>
[color=blue]
> Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer...are
> these examples of intellectually superior Jews?[/color]

<snip>

I hope you aren't basing your assumptions of Rumsfeld's religious
faith on his surname, because I heard he wasn't Jewish - but my source
may be wrong, if so I'd be interested to know!

Davin.
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Could you please stop cross-posting this crap to comp.lang.c? Thanks.

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Please keep this crap out of comp.lang.c. (I'm sure it's equally
off-topic in the other newsgroups it's being inflicted on, but I
happened to see it in comp.lang.c.)

Followups redirected appropriately.

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In <6b70c71c.0309161338.1ddc9eda@posting.google.com >, on 09/16/2003
at 02:38 PM, mark_tarka@yahoo.com (Mark Tarka) said:
[color=blue]
>Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer...are
>these examples of intellectually superior Jews?[/color]

Don't confuse Intellegence with ideology. Or with benevolence. The
Gaussian distribution applies just as much to morality as to
intelligence.
[color=blue]
>Their
>current script looks like a soap-opera plot, at best,
>a "Dallas" episode -- feminists and Jews _against_ Islam and for
>_shopping_.[/color]

It doesn't sound like you understand their script very well. The fact
is that the dubya administration has business interests in Saudi
Arabia and isn't about to call them to account for their sub rosa
support of terrorists.

As to skin color, the same statistical considerations apply. There is
a wide range of intelligence, and the mean intelligence of any "race"
won't tell ou anything useful about the intelligence of an individual
member. Add to that the problem of separating out the effects of
environment.

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In <SZP9b.6532$BS5.2313@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink. net>, on
09/17/2003
at 02:50 AM, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> said:
[color=blue]
>The root of anti-Semitism are Jews themselves.[/color]

The root of Antisemitism is ignorant bigots like you. You are a real
ornament: please stand up, burn your cross and leave.

*PLONK*

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"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in
message news:3f68fdac$20$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.ne t...[color=blue]
> In <SZP9b.6532$BS5.2313@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink. net>, on
> 09/17/2003
> at 02:50 AM, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> said:
>[color=green]
> >The root of anti-Semitism are Jews themselves.[/color]
>
> The root of Antisemitism is ignorant bigots like you. You are a real
> ornament: please stand up, burn your cross and leave.
> *PLONK* Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>[/color]

Face facts, Plonker Shmuel,
if there were no Jews then there could be no Anti-Semitism.
Ergo, Jews are the cause of anti-Semitism.

I am sorry you can't stand nor comprehend simple reality nor
logic? Your emotional, paranoid outburst over this & you seeing
rightaway burning crosses in your mind tells volumes about you.
But, I say: .....let'em sing...All of them...it's a beautiful choir.
Shalom, Plonker Shmuel,
Aahahaha.........ahahahanson
..

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*heavy sigh*

YABT YHL HAND

(You have been trolled. You have lost. Have a nice day.)

Followups set to misc.test.

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"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in message news:<3f68fc01$19$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.n et>...[color=blue]
> In <6b70c71c.0309161338.1ddc9eda@posting.google.com >, on 09/16/2003
> at 02:38 PM, mark_tarka@yahoo.com (Mark Tarka) said:
>[color=green]
> >Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer...are
> >these examples of intellectually superior Jews?[/color]
>
> Don't confuse Intellegence with ideology. Or with benevolence. The
> Gaussian distribution applies just as much to morality as to
> intelligence.[/color]

We don't. And most of us have never considered the US Secretary Of Defense
a job that would attract intelligence.

[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> >Their
> >current script looks like a soap-opera plot, at best,
> >a "Dallas" episode -- feminists and Jews _against_ Islam and for
> >_shopping_.[/color]
>
> It doesn't sound like you understand their script very well. The fact
> is that the dubya administration has business interests in Saudi
> Arabia and isn't about to call them to account for their sub rosa
> support of terrorists.[/color]

The fact is the administration has buisness interests
in Florida. And isn't really going to take sub rosa
Iraqi sand as a substitute.

Given that Saudi Arabia has supported Iran for 40 years,
it's not a mystery, who they support and who
the US doesn't.
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"wired" <lunz008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
> news:<te9ab.7098$UN4.1573@newsread3.news.pas.earth link.net>...[color=green]
> > "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote in message
> > news:3f68fdac$20$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.ne t...[color=darkred]
> > > "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> said in:
> > > <news:SZP9b.6532$BS5.2313@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net>,
> > > >The root of anti-Semitism are Jews themselves.
> > >
> > > The root of Antisemitism is ignorant bigots like you. You are a real
> > > ornament: please stand up, burn your cross and leave.
> > > *PLONK* Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
> > >[/color]
> >
> > Face facts, Plonker Shmuel,
> > if there were no Jews then there could be no Anti-Semitism.
> > Ergo, Jews are the cause of anti-Semitism.
> > hanson[/color]
>
> true, that if there were no Jews there would be no anti-Semitism...
> Davin.
>[/color]
............so, why the fuck do you keep on arguing so loudly, Davin?
Relax, dude(s)!. Have a ham sandwich and crunch your fears with
grinding on some great pork rind.....and then you will jell and we
all can jam together:
"Let'em sing.... All of them....it's a beautiful choir!"
AHAHAHaha......ahahahahanson

PS: to the poster who cries about the changing the headers:
Tell this to the OP, Benjamin Disraeli (thedisraeli@hotmail.com)

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ZZBunker wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote
>[/color]
SNIP....
[color=blue]
> Given that Saudi Arabia has supported Iran for 40 years,
> it's not a mystery, who they support and who
> the US doesn't.
>
>[/color]
Given that Iran is the most Shiite of places and Saudi Arabia the most
Sunni, no, what you are giving is not a given, especially after the Iranians
instituted an armed uprising on the 1987 Hadj.

josh halpern

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re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 03:01:45 GMT, in comp.lang.c , "hanson"
<hanson@quick.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in
>message news:3f68fdac$20$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.ne t...[color=green]
>> In <SZP9b.6532$BS5.2313@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink. net>, on
>> 09/17/2003
>> at 02:50 AM, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> said:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >The root of anti-Semitism are Jews themselves.[/color]
>>
>> The root of Antisemitism is ignorant bigots like you. You are a real
>> ornament: please stand up, burn your cross and leave.
>> *PLONK* Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>>[/color]
>
>Face facts, Plonker Shmuel,
>if there were no Jews then there could be no Anti-Semitism.
>Ergo, Jews are the cause of anti-Semitism.[/color]

AUP abuse complaints to abuse@earthlink.net

*plonk*

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> AUP abuse complaints to abuse@earthlink.net

AHAHHAH........ahahahaha..........

MacIntyre,
what exactly caused your Ire?
Do you run on a flat tire?
Do think they'll lose good money,
over your silly tears, dear honey?

ahahahaha........ahahahanson

PS: Hey-McIntyre-let-your-ire lose onto the OP,
Benjamin Disraeli (thedisraeli@hotmail.com)
who started this thread. Why should I change the headers?
Why didn't YOU, yourself, change the headers, birdbrain?
Why did YOU not at least change the follow-up, Einstein?
OR.... are you one of those religo/political fanatics who
tolerate free speech only when it is their own?
If so, then tell to your own sphincter without ire, Mcintyre:
"Let'em sing!.....All of'em.......it's a beautiful choir!:"

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"Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 03:01:45 GMT, in comp.lang.c , "hanson"
> <hanson@quick.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in
> >message news:3f68fdac$20$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.ne t...[color=darkred]
> >> In <SZP9b.6532$BS5.2313@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink. net>, on
> >> 09/17/2003
> >> at 02:50 AM, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> said:
> >>
> >> >The root of anti-Semitism are Jews themselves.
> >>
> >> The root of Antisemitism is ignorant bigots like you. You are a real
> >> ornament: please stand up, burn your cross and leave.
> >> *PLONK* Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
> >>[/color]
> >
> >Face facts, Plonker Shmuel,
> >if there were no Jews then there could be no Anti-Semitism.
> >Ergo, Jews are the cause of anti-Semitism.[/color]
>
> AUP abuse complaints to abuse@earthlink.net
>
> *plonk*
>
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<3F613B70.1518535C@hate.spam.net>...[color=blue]
> Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > question
> > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > are there
> > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
> > they are
> > a superior race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
> > Shockley's
> > fallacy that blacks are inferior? Do the jews have greater stamina
> > than
> > others?[/color]
>
> They have Jewish mothers. Read "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth.
> Chinese mothers are equally lethal and man-hating. That Jews from the
> Pale of Settlement average 115 IQs doesn't hurt. That Hitler killed
> off the bottom 90% of the bell curve for European Jews doesn't hurt
> either - evolution is a hoot if you are one of the survivors. The
> best of the best emigrated to the New World and were scythed again by
> anti-Semitism. The survivors are intellectually superior in every way
> (on the average).
>
> Selective breeding works the other way, too. The absolutely most
> stupid Blacks in West Africa were captured by their marginally more
> intelligent and vicious brethren, then sold to Arabs who in turn sold
> them to the Triangular Trade and New World slavery. Uppity Darkies
> were weeded out. The result is US Inner Cities as celebrations of
> ethnic diversity.
>[/color]

Wow...ain't nobody that can accuse Uncle Al of excessive political
correctness!

Still, sad to say, what this honkey, racist curmudgeon posts has the
unmistakable ring of truth!

To some people, this truth is a problem. The question then is, why
doesn't society fix the problem rather than pretending that it doesn't
exist or justifing it?

Teaching someone to read or speak correctively shouldn't cost very
much, unless the politicians get their hand into it. Similarly, basic
math skills are not very difficult to teach or to learn. Once people
master language and mathematics skills, plus a bit of factual history,
college becomes a matter of hard work...nothing else.

Then too, I once in a while have to sit back and ask myself the
question: Why is American education more poised to train workers than
to educate people? Asking such questions in a New England town meeting
tends to make me very unpopular, but I don't understand why.

Then too, possibly I don't wish to understant by, because the obvious
explanation is so very ugly.

Harry C.
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re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews



"Harry Conover" <hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message[/color]
news:<3F613B70.1518535C@hate.spam.net>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > > question
> > > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > > are there
> > > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences? Is it because
> > > they are
> > > a superior race and conversely lending truth to racism and thus
> > > Shockley's
> > > fallacy that blacks are inferior? Do the jews have greater stamina
> > > than
> > > others?[/color]
> >
> > They have Jewish mothers. Read "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth.
> > Chinese mothers are equally lethal and man-hating. That Jews from the
> > Pale of Settlement average 115 IQs doesn't hurt. That Hitler killed
> > off the bottom 90% of the bell curve for European Jews doesn't hurt
> > either - evolution is a hoot if you are one of the survivors. The
> > best of the best emigrated to the New World and were scythed again by
> > anti-Semitism. The survivors are intellectually superior in every way
> > (on the average).
> >
> > Selective breeding works the other way, too. The absolutely most
> > stupid Blacks in West Africa were captured by their marginally more
> > intelligent and vicious brethren, then sold to Arabs who in turn sold
> > them to the Triangular Trade and New World slavery. Uppity Darkies
> > were weeded out. The result is US Inner Cities as celebrations of
> > ethnic diversity.
> >[/color]
>
> Wow...ain't nobody that can accuse Uncle Al of excessive political
> correctness!
>
> Still, sad to say, what this honkey, racist curmudgeon posts has the
> unmistakable ring of truth!
>
> To some people, this truth is a problem. The question then is, why
> doesn't society fix the problem rather than pretending that it doesn't
> exist or justifing it?
>
> Teaching someone to read or speak correctively shouldn't cost very
> much, unless the politicians get their hand into it. Similarly, basic
> math skills are not very difficult to teach or to learn. Once people
> master language and mathematics skills, plus a bit of factual history,
> college becomes a matter of hard work...nothing else.
>
> Then too, I once in a while have to sit back and ask myself the
> question: Why is American education more poised to train workers than
> to educate people?[/color]


Somebody has to make the donuts.......

[color=blue]
>Asking such questions in a New England town meeting
> tends to make me very unpopular, but I don't understand why.
>
> Then too, possibly I don't wish to understant by, because the obvious
> explanation is so very ugly.[/color]

The "truth" is that the vast majority of the population has
a hard time keeping enough in their heads to get through the
next day much less deal with you telling them how you think they
should go about life....


[color=blue]
>
> Harry C.[/color]


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On 20 Sep 2003 14:18:26 -0700, in comp.lang.c , hhc314@yahoo.com
(Harry Conover) wrote:
[color=blue]
>Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<3F613B70.1518535C@hate.spam.net>...[color=green]
>> Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[/color][/color]

go away, trolls.

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re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews




Harry Conover wrote: (Big snip of contentious crud that has
characterized this thread)
[color=blue]
>Teaching someone to read or speak correctively shouldn't cost very
>much, unless the politicians get their hand into it. Similarly, basic
>math skills are not very difficult to teach or to learn. Once people
>master language and mathematics skills, plus a bit of factual history,
>college becomes a matter of hard work...nothing else.
>
>[/color]
This strikes me as wrong, unless, of course, you prefer shacks for
schools and not paying teachers very much.
[color=blue]
>Then too, I once in a while have to sit back and ask myself the
>question: Why is American education more poised to train workers than
>to educate people? Asking such questions in a New England town meeting
>tends to make me very unpopular, but I don't understand why.
>
>[/color]
Well, the educational system I grew up in (NYC schools in the 50s) was
specifically designed to train office and skilled trade workers in NYC.
Higher education was taken care of by a no cost city college system.
BTW, that was the one Uncle Al pines for.

If you want to tell me that it didn't cost very much, well heck, that
was because they were living off schools constructed in the 30s and
40s and women teachers who had few other career opportunities and
guys who got locked into the system during the depression. The stuff
hit the fan in the 60s and 70s.

Kind of reminds me of what the US is doing now, living off past
investment. Sooner or later the piper comes to play.

josh halpern


[color=blue]
>Then too, possibly I don't wish to understant by, because the obvious
>explanation is so very ugly.
>
> Harry C.
>
>[/color]

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re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews


In sci.chem Josh Halpern <j.halpern@incoming.verizon.net> wrote:

: Given that Iran is the most Shiite of places and Saudi Arabia the most
: Sunni, no, what you are giving is not a given, especially after the Iranians
: instituted an armed uprising on the 1987 Hadj.

How do you explain the Saudi government's stonewalling of American attempts
to investigate the Khobar Towers bombing? Even Colin Powell (well before
he was Secretary of State) criticized them for it.

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Richard Schultz wrote:
[color=blue]
>In sci.chem Josh Halpern <j.halpern@incoming.verizon.net> wrote:
>
>: Given that Iran is the most Shiite of places and Saudi Arabia the most
>: Sunni, no, what you are giving is not a given, especially after the Iranians
>: instituted an armed uprising on the 1987 Hadj.
>
>How do you explain the Saudi government's stonewalling of American attempts
>to investigate the Khobar Towers bombing? Even Colin Powell (well before
>he was Secretary of State) criticized them for it.
>[/color]
Almost certainly because Saudi citizens were involved.

josh halpern

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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message news:<SZP9b.6532$BS5.2313@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net>...[color=blue]
> "Mark Tarka" <mark_tarka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6b70c71c.0309161338.1ddc9eda@posting.google.c om...[color=green]
> > Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message[/color]
> news:<3F613B70.1518535C@hate.spam.net>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > Benjamin Disraeli wrote:[/color][/color][/color]
[snipped...carefully....][color=blue]
> Only the millenium, your despised stooopid masses, they will always be
> here, perennially like the grass, and they will make you work for them....
> **** You just haven't discovered or not accepted that fact yet.****
> ahahhahahaha.........ahahahahahanson[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > [snip][/color]
> > Mark (this space intentionally left blank)[/color][/color]

OK, Hanson, riddle us this -- Hillary Clinton will
run for President of the USA...how much happy juice
will be consumed in this gender-comedy act?

And, is it time to privatize the government (as in, the
CEO, i.e. President, posts a $1T bond (subject to
change depending on social, political, and economic
conditions) to cover any indiscretions, so too for
his cabinet)?

Mark (Drop the remote and come out with your hands....)
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re: Fundamental Reason for High Achievements of Jews


thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin Disraeli) wrote in message news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=blue]
> The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> question
> that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> are there
> so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?[/color]

---------------------
Hy
Is there anything like this ?
I doubt about that.
I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so many
hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier abroad,
much more than those that were living in their native country? "
The answer given by the scientist was something like this:
Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position through
hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.

Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
from roman times they could not have their state, where they
could have been relatively relaxed as other peoples were.
Plus they had to fight that stupid resentment from
christians , because you see "they killed Christ ".
( Well, Christ was one of them after all,wasn't he?)
And they still have that fight even today.
(This is a shame for the 21-th century!)
I do not think that jews were or are better than
other people, they just simply had to work more for recognition
and for them it was a must to help each other ,small droplets
in the ocean of nations.
So, after all, I consider that the number of scientists
different nations had,it is a matter of historical conjuncture
more than a matter of people's quality.

All the best
Laszlo Lemhenyi,Toronto
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"Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin Disraeli) wrote in message[/color]
news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > question
> > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > are there
> > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?[/color]
>
> ---------------------
> Hy
> Is there anything like this ?
> I doubt about that.
> I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
> an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so many
> hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier abroad,
> much more than those that were living in their native country? "
> The answer given by the scientist was something like this:
> Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
> foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position through
> hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
> And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.
>
> Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
> from roman times they could not have their state...[/color]

"Laszlo Lemhenyi" makes a good point!

People like Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Davidians, etc.
who do not "have their own state",
( Or more importantly, who do not have their own planet.)
should make an effort to integrate into the
state they are in, and interface in a peaceful,
symbiotic way with their neighbors.

As can be seen,
the religious/ethnic brainwashing of Jewish Children
frequently brings them into conflict with their neighbors,
as can be seen by the Jewish experience in Egypt, Babylonia,
Spain, Britain, Germany, the Middle East, Russia,
and as can be seen they are coming into a serious conflict
with America, which is their last protector in a rapidly
shrinking world.

Unless the Jewish community comes to grip with this problem,
and works to solve it, there will be no place for Jews to go,
and an ultimate conflict will come about where the Jewish
remnants will use weapons of mass destruction,
but be wiped out by the larger society, in the end.

I suggest that the root cause of the problem,
is that Jewish Children are subjected to
too much religious/ethic brainwashing,
and that government must act to limit
the amount of religious/ethnic dogma
that a child can be subjected to.

The alternate is a nasty conflict between Jews
and the larger society, in which there will be only
one survivor.

People have to change with the times.
Religious/ethnic brainwashing inhibits this.

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us


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Tom Potter wrote:[color=blue]
>
> The alternate is a nasty conflict between Jews
> and the larger society, in which there will be only
> one survivor.[/color]

Nonsense. Except for the relatively small number of American Jews who
are Orthodox, the rest are not extremely observant and are very well
assimilated into American culture. Most American Jews are more American
than the Americans (which is a Jewish charactersitic). American Jews
live at peace with their Gentile neighbors and have less crime than the
a randomly selected group of Americans of the same size. Jews, overall,
tend to be very law abiding.

There is nothing in Jewish law and custom (insofar as they are observed)
that puts Jews into conflict with other Americans, except for
anti-semite momser miscreants like yourself.

Bob Kolker

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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:blrdni$f5p1u$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
>
> Tom Potter wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > The alternate is a nasty conflict between Jews
> > and the larger society, in which there will be only
> > one survivor.[/color]
>
> Nonsense. Except for the relatively small number of American Jews who
> are Orthodox, the rest are not extremely observant and are very well
> assimilated into American culture. Most American Jews are more American
> than the Americans (which is a Jewish charactersitic). American Jews
> live at peace with their Gentile neighbors and have less crime than the
> a randomly selected group of Americans of the same size. Jews, overall,
> tend to be very law abiding.
>
> There is nothing in Jewish law and custom (insofar as they are observed)
> that puts Jews into conflict with other Americans, except for
> anti-semite momser miscreants like yourself.[/color]

It is interesting to see that "Robert J. Kolker"
uses the standard, boiler plate tactic and words,
used by people who have been brainwashed to
religious/ethic dogma and as can be seen,
he is so brainwashed, that he cannot see that
I am pointing out a problem that is of great
importance to Jews and all of mankind.

I wonder how "Robert J. Kolker" accounts for the fact that:

1. Jews have come into conflict with so many nations such as
Egypt, Persia, Spain, England, Germany, Russia,
over the span of history,
and why most (All?) of their blood brothers (Semitics)
in the Middle East hate them?

2. The phrase "anti-Semitic" is so prevalent?
I see this phrase pop up all the time,
and there must be a reason for it.

3. American Jews got America
in the middle of Israel's problems with the Muslims
which was the root cause of the 911 incident,
and the war with Afghanistan and Iraq?

4. The enormous pressure put on Peru,
to release Lori Berenson, who was caught in the
act of instigating terrorism, and the related pressure
to punish the very man who ended the terrorism in Peru
and restored social and fiscal stability to Peru?

5. The interference of the Israeli lobby in the
congressional elections in Alabama and Georgia,
when those Congressmen called for a fair and
balanced foreign policy in the Middle East?

I suggest that a greedy, immoral sub-set of the Jews
that I call Bolsheviks instigate conflict and war
for power and riches, much as some Gypsies tell fortunes.

They instigated the class wars of the 1900's
and they are instigating the religious wars of the 2000's.

No doubt most American Jews live at peace
with their non-Jewish neighbors as America provides
substance and protection for the Jews,
just as Egypt, Persia, Spain, England, Germany and Russia
did in past times, but I suspect that when the majority
of Americans reject the efforts of Jews to involve them
in their conflict and war for profit games,
that the Jews will try move on, and establish a base from
where to operate.

But note, as I pointed out,
there is no place else for Jews to use as a base
of operations, as they have worn out their welcome
all over the world, and the world is becoming a smaller,
more inter-dependent place.

I suggest that the time has come for good, moral Jews
to give some thought to this problem, and begin to
assimilate with their fellow man.

The time is short.
Maybe 100 years at the most.

--
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Tom Potter wrote:
[color=blue]
> I suggest that the time has come for good, moral Jews
> to give some thought to this problem, and begin to
> assimilate with their fellow man.[/color]

In the U.S. the time has come and gone. Jews are largely assimilated. In
the last 30 years intermarriage rate with gentiles has risen sharply.
For good or ill, it is a done deal.

Bob Kolker


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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Why is this being discussed in comp.lang.c???


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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Tom Potter wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I suggest that the time has come for good, moral Jews
> > to give some thought to this problem, and begin to
> > assimilate with their fellow man.[/color]
>
> In the U.S. the time has come and gone. Jews are largely assimilated. In
> the last 30 years intermarriage rate with gentiles has risen sharply.
> For good or ill, it is a done deal.[/color]
Some excerpts from Bob Kolker's posts are listed below.

As can be seen, he, like many Jews,
has been brainwashed to put the interests of Israel and Jews,
ahead of neighbors,, and note that he, like the Bolsheviks
promotes conflict and war just as the Bolsheviks instigated
the class wars of the 1900's and are instigating the
religious wars of the 2000's.

Bush is a willing agent of Sharon and the Bolsheviks.
If he had not crawled into bed with them, there would
have been no 911, no wars with Afghanistan and Iraq
no movement of America toward a police and military state, etc.

The standard tactic of the instigators of conflict and war for power
and riches, is to set two groups, who would otherwise get along just fine,
against one another, and get them fighting, while the remain apart from
the struggle, and profit from it. Note that it is America Blacks, Rednecks,
and Latinos who are separated from their children and spouses, and dying
and being maimed in Iraq.

Some Bob Kolker quotes follow:
===========================

It is Arafat who is putting his life at risk. The Israelis have been
scrupulous about keeping that thug, murderer and son of bitch alive.

===============

The shit has hit the fan and the Palestinians are going
to suffer a great deal more than the Israelis. I expect that sooner or
later the Israelis will have to bomb Jinin into rubble and pulverized
mortar. What is happening is no less than a civil war and it is to the
death. The Israelis will win at great cost to themselves, but when they
get through all talk of a Palestinian State will cease. The Palestinians
will either be slaughtered or driven out.


==================
[color=blue]
> So basicly the Americans would commit themselves to a lifestyle of
> perpetual war for the next few centuries.[/color]

Net few decades. A necessary evil to achieve a more peaceful world.
These people are like the Terminator. You can reason with them, you
can't appeal to their mercy, you can't bargain with them. You either
must flee them, be destroyed by them or destroy them.

=================

The Palestineans have a death wish and it is about time
that Israel did them the kindness of fulfilling their wishes.

Kill them all and let Allah sort out the corpses.

And that is just about all I am going to say about Israel and the
Palestineans. The Palestineans have behaved stupidly over 56 years and
it is about time someone put them out of our misery.

=================
End of quotes.

The masses must be stupid,
to allow Bolsheviks manipulate them,
and profit from their misery.

--
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"Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message news:<blqolc$faaoh$1@ID-188019.news.uni-berlin.de>...[color=blue]
> "Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5e8bcaa0.0310051313.5cf0a951@posting.google.c om...[color=green]
> > thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin Disraeli) wrote in message[/color]
> news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > > question
> > > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > > are there
> > > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?[/color]
> >
> > ---------------------
> > Hy
> > Is there anything like this ?
> > I doubt about that.
> > I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
> > an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so many
> > hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier abroad,
> > much more than those that were living in their native country? "
> > The answer given by the scientist was something like this:
> > Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
> > foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position through
> > hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
> > And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.
> >
> > Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
> > from roman times they could not have their state...[/color]
>
> "Laszlo Lemhenyi" makes a good point!
>
> People like Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Davidians, etc.
> who do not "have their own state",
> ( Or more importantly, who do not have their own planet.)
> should make an effort to integrate into the
> state they are in, and interface in a peaceful,
> symbiotic way with their neighbors.
>
> ..............[/color]
I suggest that the root cause of the problem, is that Jewish Children
are subjected to too much religious/ethic brainwashing, and that
government must act to limit the amount of religious/ethnic dogma that
a child can be subjected to.
.....
Hy Tom
You had here a very very good point!
But one that has to be extended to other religious education too.
I can see that the muslim education ( and probably other ones too)
is equally primitive and aggressive as the extreme mozaic,
buddhist and other cults.
Actually,thinking of 9/11 ,even more aggressive.
Children are not able to judge what is right or wrong in
what they are being taught.
They should be protected, shielded from extremist ideas.
I am afraid that this is happening only in places
like USA.Canada, Western European countries --
where people have learnt (more or less) tolerate differences.
---
I think you make a mistake speaking of Jews instead of
Jewish state.
From my experience and my knowlidge Jews has
integrated very well in the life of different countries
and societies .
In the middle east,they are now fighting to keep
their own state, recently created.
I've never learned of a state ever created on Earth
without fight or war and I do not think that ever will be !
Creating a state is not a religious issue.
It can be shown as a religious matter only by ignorance
or evil political attitude, both very present in the
middle east.
I understand what and why is happening there,
the badwill and ignorance involved,the chaos and
anarchy in the palestinian side mixed with religious
spread.(They could have actually a kind of federative
state, as a solution of the problem, being so a
mixed population that even God won't be able
separate them in ethnic groups - by my opinion)
It is not about religion there.
It is politics and anarchy.

All the best
Laszlo Lemhenyi,Toronto
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"Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message[/color]
news:<blqolc$faaoh$1@ID-188019.news.uni-berlin.de>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5e8bcaa0.0310051313.5cf0a951@posting.google.c om...[color=darkred]
> > > thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin Disraeli) wrote in message[/color]
> > news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=darkred]
> > > > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > > > question
> > > > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > > > are there
> > > > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?
> > >
> > > ---------------------
> > > Hy
> > > Is there anything like this ?
> > > I doubt about that.
> > > I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
> > > an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so many
> > > hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier abroad,
> > > much more than those that were living in their native country? "
> > > The answer given by the scientist was something like this:
> > > Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
> > > foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position through
> > > hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
> > > And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.
> > >
> > > Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
> > > from roman times they could not have their state...[/color]
> >
> > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" makes a good point!
> >
> > People like Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Davidians, etc.
> > who do not "have their own state",
> > ( Or more importantly, who do not have their own planet.)
> > should make an effort to integrate into the
> > state they are in, and interface in a peaceful,
> > symbiotic way with their neighbors.
> >
> > ..............[/color]
> I suggest that the root cause of the problem, is that Jewish Children
> are subjected to too much religious/ethic brainwashing, and that
> government must act to limit the amount of religious/ethnic dogma that
> a child can be subjected to.
> ....
> Hy Tom
> You had here a very very good point!
> But one that has to be extended to other religious education too.
> I can see that the muslim education ( and probably other ones too)
> is equally primitive and aggressive as the extreme mozaic,
> buddhist and other cults.
> Actually,thinking of 9/11 ,even more aggressive.
> Children are not able to judge what is right or wrong in
> what they are being taught.
> They should be protected, shielded from extremist ideas.
> I am afraid that this is happening only in places
> like USA.Canada, Western European countries --
> where people have learnt (more or less) tolerate differences.
> ---
> I think you make a mistake speaking of Jews instead of
> Jewish state.[/color]

How do you account for the fact that
Jews have come into conflict with almost every nation
they have been in, including Egypt, Persia, England, Spain,
Germany, lastly Russia, currently Palestine,
and soon to be America?

I dare say that they will never migrate to China, Japan,
as time is running out for them to integrate peacefully
with their neighbors. Unless something is done,
there will be no place on Earth where Jews are welcome,
after Americans turn against them.

There is a fundamental problem here,
that must be addressed as some Jews
instigate conflict and war for power and riches,
and this creates a problem for the larger Jewish community,
and the world.

Even the famous Jewish historian Joseph
recognized this problem, 2000 years ago.

--
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Ashish wrote:[color=blue]
> "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:blsjmn$fvi87$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Why is this being discussed in comp.lang.c???
>
>[/color]
Obviously because IT IS FULL OF JEWS!!! Jews are taking over
comp.lang.c because their greedy grubby need to take over everything is
finally seeping into the C language. Next thing you know they will be
trying to rewrite the standard. The entire reason for my low IQ and
inability to succeed in life can be attributed to jews. If it wasn't
for all the damn JEWS in science I wouldn't have to study! They keep
taking all the women too, being all "nice" and treating them with
"respect" and making me look like a complete ass. They took all the
jobs, now there is no point even looking for one. All I can do is sit
around all day filled with self pity and loathing for the damn JEWS who
did this to me. I hate my life and its all the fault of the Jew!

NR

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 01:25:35 -0700, Noah Roberts
<nroberts@dontemailme.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Ashish wrote:[color=green]
>> "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
>> news:blsjmn$fvi87$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> Why is this being discussed in comp.lang.c???
>>
>>[/color]
>Obviously because IT IS FULL OF JEWS!!! Jews are taking over
>comp.lang.c because their greedy grubby need to take over everything is
>finally seeping into the C language. Next thing you know they will be
>trying to rewrite the standard. The entire reason for my low IQ and
>inability to succeed in life can be attributed to jews. If it wasn't
>for all the damn JEWS in science I wouldn't have to study! They keep
>taking all the women too, being all "nice" and treating them with
>"respect" and making me look like a complete ass. They took all the
>jobs, now there is no point even looking for one. All I can do is sit
>around all day filled with self pity and loathing for the damn JEWS who
>did this to me. I hate my life and its all the fault of the Jew!
>
>NR
>[/color]
YOU are a total idiot.

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mathedman <mathedman@hotmail.cut.com> scribbled the following
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> On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 01:25:35 -0700, Noah Roberts
> <nroberts@dontemailme.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>Ashish wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:blsjmn$fvi87$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>> Why is this being discussed in comp.lang.c???
>>>[/color]
>>Obviously because IT IS FULL OF JEWS!!! Jews are taking over
>>comp.lang.c because their greedy grubby need to take over everything is
>>finally seeping into the C language. Next thing you know they will be
>>trying to rewrite the standard. The entire reason for my low IQ and
>>inability to succeed in life can be attributed to jews. If it wasn't
>>for all the damn JEWS in science I wouldn't have to study! They keep
>>taking all the women too, being all "nice" and treating them with
>>"respect" and making me look like a complete ass. They took all the
>>jobs, now there is no point even looking for one. All I can do is sit
>>around all day filled with self pity and loathing for the damn JEWS who
>>did this to me. I hate my life and its all the fault of the Jew![/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> YOU are a total idiot.[/color]

I thought he was being sarcastic.

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"Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message news:<bltm81$cn56e$1@ID-188019.news.uni-berlin.de>...[color=blue]
> "Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5e8bcaa0.0310062007.b6613f9@posting.google.co m...[color=green]
> > "Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message[/color]
> news:<blqolc$faaoh$1@ID-188019.news.uni-berlin.de>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5e8bcaa0.0310051313.5cf0a951@posting.google.c om...
> > > > thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin Disraeli) wrote in message[/color][/color]
> news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > > > > question
> > > > > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > > > > are there
> > > > > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > Hy
> > > > Is there anything like this ?
> > > > I doubt about that.
> > > > I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
> > > > an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so many
> > > > hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier abroad,
> > > > much more than those that were living in their native country? "
> > > > The answer given by the scientist was something like this:
> > > > Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
> > > > foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position through
> > > > hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
> > > > And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.
> > > >
> > > > Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
> > > > from roman times they could not have their state...
> > >
> > > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" makes a good point!
> > >
> > > People like Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Davidians, etc.
> > > who do not "have their own state",
> > > ( Or more importantly, who do not have their own planet.)
> > > should make an effort to integrate into the
> > > state they are in, and interface in a peaceful,
> > > symbiotic way with their neighbors.
> > >
> > > ..............[/color]
> > I suggest that the root cause of the problem, is that Jewish Children
> > are subjected to too much religious/ethic brainwashing, and that
> > government must act to limit the amount of religious/ethnic dogma that
> > a child can be subjected to.
> > ....
> > Hy Tom
> > You had here a very very good point!
> > But one that has to be extended to other religious education too.
> > I can see that the muslim education ( and probably other ones too)
> > is equally primitive and aggressive as the extreme mozaic,
> > buddhist and other cults.
> > Actually,thinking of 9/11 ,even more aggressive.
> > Children are not able to judge what is right or wrong in
> > what they are being taught.
> > They should be protected, shielded from extremist ideas.
> > I am afraid that this is happening only in places
> > like USA.Canada, Western European countries --
> > where people have learnt (more or less) tolerate differences.
> > ---
> > I think you make a mistake speaking of Jews instead of
> > Jewish state.[/color]
>
> How do you account for the fact that
> Jews have come into conflict with almost every nation
> they have been in, including Egypt, Persia, England, Spain,
> Germany, lastly Russia, currently Palestine,
> and soon to be America?
>
> I dare say that they will never migrate to China, Japan,
> as time is running out for them to integrate peacefully
> with their neighbors. Unless something is done,
> there will be no place on Earth where Jews are welcome,
> after Americans turn against them.
>
> There is a fundamental problem here,
> that must be addressed as some Jews
> instigate conflict and war for power and riches,
> and this creates a problem for the larger Jewish community,
> and the world.
>
> Even the famous Jewish historian Joseph
> recognized this problem, 2000 years ago.[/color]


So, Tom, do you have a final solution for the Jewish problem???

Double-A
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Tom Potter wrote:
[color=blue]
> Even the famous Jewish historian Joseph
> recognized this problem, 2000 years ago.[/color]

You are referring to Flavius Josephus?

Have you ever wondered why Jews are still around while Glorious Athens
(the Athens of Pericles) and the Imperium Romanum are dead and gone? The
only remnant of Imperial Rome that survives today is the Italian Mafia.

Bob Kolker


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> > news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=darkred]
> > > > > > The following article, written for a different purpose answers[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > > question
> > > > > > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter.[/color][/color][/color]
Why[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > > are there
> > > > > > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------
> > > > > Hy
> > > > > Is there anything like this ?
> > > > > I doubt about that.
> > > > > I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
> > > > > an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so[/color][/color][/color]
many[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier[/color][/color][/color]
abroad,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > much more than those that were living in their native country? "
> > > > > The answer given by the scientist was something like[/color][/color][/color]
this:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
> > > > > foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position[/color][/color][/color]
through[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
> > > > > And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
> > > > > from roman times they could not have their state...
> > > >
> > > > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" makes a good point!
> > > >
> > > > People like Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Davidians, etc.
> > > > who do not "have their own state",
> > > > ( Or more importantly, who do not have their own planet.)
> > > > should make an effort to integrate into the
> > > > state they are in, and interface in a peaceful,
> > > > symbiotic way with their neighbors.
> > > >
> > > > ..............
> > > I suggest that the root cause of the problem, is that Jewish Children
> > > are subjected to too much religious/ethic brainwashing, and that
> > > government must act to limit the amount of religious/ethnic dogma that
> > > a child can be subjected to.
> > > ....
> > > Hy Tom
> > > You had here a very very good point!
> > > But one that has to be extended to other religious education too.
> > > I can see that the muslim education ( and probably other ones too)
> > > is equally primitive and aggressive as the extreme mozaic,
> > > buddhist and other cults.
> > > Actually,thinking of 9/11 ,even more aggressive.
> > > Children are not able to judge what is right or wrong in
> > > what they are being taught.
> > > They should be protected, shielded from extremist ideas.
> > > I am afraid that this is happening only in places
> > > like USA.Canada, Western European countries --
> > > where people have learnt (more or less) tolerate differences.
> > > ---
> > > I think you make a mistake speaking of Jews instead of
> > > Jewish state.[/color]
> >
> > How do you account for the fact that
> > Jews have come into conflict with almost every nation
> > they have been in, including Egypt, Persia, England, Spain,
> > Germany, lastly Russia, currently Palestine,
> > and soon to be America?
> >
> > I dare say that they will never migrate to China, Japan,
> > as time is running out for them to integrate peacefully
> > with their neighbors. Unless something is done,
> > there will be no place on Earth where Jews are welcome,
> > after Americans turn against them.
> >
> > There is a fundamental problem here,
> > that must be addressed as some Jews
> > instigate conflict and war for power and riches,
> > and this creates a problem for the larger Jewish community,
> > and the world.
> >
> > Even the famous Jewish historian Joseph
> > recognized this problem, 2000 years ago.[/color]
>
>
> So, Tom, do you have a final solution for the Jewish problem???[/color]

1. Less brainwashing of Jewish children
to religious/ethnic dogma.

2. Integration into, and loyalty to,
the nations where they live.
An American Jew should be a loyal American.
A German Jew should be a loyal German.

3. The larger Jewish community must chastise,
rather than support the anti-social elements
in their midst, particularly those who
instigate conflict and war for profit,
as this is what ultimately turns the people
against all Jews.

4. Give up Hammarabi's laws,
and learn that turning the other cheek
is a better social strategy in a civilized world.

As I mentioned,
the Jews have worn out their welcome
in most parts of the world,
and when Americans turn against them,
(As they will within ten years.)
there will be no place on Earth where they
are welcome.

The choices for the Jews are:
1. Integrate.
2. Co-opt and keep a powerful nation.
3. Develop a better war machine than all other nations.
4. Develop a doom's day machine.
5. Control most media and the Internet.
6. Find a way to intimidate or buy
the leaders of powerful nations on a continual basic.

I assert that only option #1 will work over
an extended period of time.

It costs too much to feed war and doom day machines,
and when the media is too biased, the people eventually
begin to disregard it, and eventually bought leaders are
replaced by leaders committed to the native populations,
and frequently there is retaliation against the leader and
those who owned the leader.

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us


Robert J. Kolker
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Tom Potter wrote:
[color=blue]
> 4. Give up Hammarabi's laws,
> and learn that turning the other cheek
> is a better social strategy in a civilized world.[/color]

If thine enemy smite thee on thy cheek, tear his head off and shit down
his neck. You are advocating a girly religion for girly men. A real man
kills his enemies, takes his land and cattler, rapes his women, enslaves
his children and contemplates how good life can be.


[color=blue]
>
> As I mentioned,
> the Jews have worn out their welcome
> in most parts of the world,
> and when Americans turn against them,
> (As they will within ten years.)
> there will be no place on Earth where they
> are welcome.[/color]

When we leave the U.S. can we take the Salk and Sabin vaccines with us?
And let gentile children die each summer from polio.


[color=blue]
>
> The choices for the Jews are:
> 1. Integrate.[/color]

It has already happened in America. Jews are assimilated.[color=blue]
> 2. Co-opt and keep a powerful nation.[/color]

A famous Jewish admiral has pushed through and overseen the production
of nuclear subs. No Rickover, no nuclear subs. That is because the goyim
in the Navy have no imagination.
[color=blue]
> 3. Develop a better war machine than all other nations.[/color]

E = m*c^2. Sound familiar. Some Jewish physicists thought that one up.
By the way the U.S. A-Bomb is the result of a Jewish cottage industry
set up in Los Alamos.[color=blue]
> 4. Develop a doom's day machine.[/color]

Already done. Big H-bombs, the product of the mind of that Jungarian Hew
Edvard Teller of recent decease.[color=blue]
> 5. Control most media and the Internet.[/color]

Media is a free for all. Anyone with the talent can make out therein.
Same for internet.
[color=blue]
> 6. Find a way to intimidate or buy
> the leaders of powerful nations on a continual basic.
>
> I assert that only option #1 will work over
> an extended period of time.[/color]

Jews have excercised ALL of your options. But you will still continue to
be unhappy.
[color=blue]
>
> It costs too much to feed war and doom day machines,[/color]

You mean it costs too much to stay on top? In this evil world, if you
are not on top, some other part is and is humping you. The price of
liberty is efficiently killing the enemies of liberty. If only the Bush
administration would carry that through consistently. The rule is very
simple. Support and help your friends. Kill your enemies. That is the
only way to survive.

Do unto others, before they do unto you.

Bob Kolker


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Robert J. Kolker wrote:

[...][color=blue]
> Kill your enemies.[/color]

Is that a proposal for everybody?
And now shut up, at least in clc.

Jirka

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"Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message news:<bltm81$cn56e$1@ID-188019.news.uni-berlin.de>...[color=blue]
> "Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5e8bcaa0.0310062007.b6613f9@posting.google.co m...[color=green]
> > "Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message[/color]
> news:<blqolc$faaoh$1@ID-188019.news.uni-berlin.de>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" <lemhenyi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5e8bcaa0.0310051313.5cf0a951@posting.google.c om...
> > > > thedisraeli@hotmail.com (Benjamin Disraeli) wrote in message[/color][/color]
> news:<d910268d.0309111758.27e6e233@posting.google. com>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > The following article, written for a different purpose answers the
> > > > > question
> > > > > that people in colleges, academia, and sciences will encounter. Why
> > > > > are there
> > > > > so many disproportionate number of jews in sciences?
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > Hy
> > > > Is there anything like this ?
> > > > I doubt about that.
> > > > I would like still to recall a question addressed by a reporter to
> > > > an american scientist of hungarian origin : " How come that so many
> > > > hungarian intellectuals had a so successful scientific carier abroad,
> > > > much more than those that were living in their native country? "
> > > > The answer given by the scientist was something like this:
> > > > Those that left the country were living in harsh conditions ,in a
> > > > foreign country where they had to fight to earn their position through
> > > > hard work ,not like their buddies left at home.
> > > > And hard work yields its fruits if you have patience.
> > > >
> > > > Jews had ,I think, a similar situation, even worse because
> > > > from roman times they could not have their state...[/color][/color][/color]

The trouble with this approach, which uses nationality as the
statistical basis for its argument, is that it misses the most glaring
anomalies. How can it be that such a disproportionate number of Nobel
prize winners for Physics write in English? Would Edward Teller have
had such a glittering career if he'd published his reports in
Hungarian? One thing's for sure. If he hadn't gone to the States when
he did he almost certainly would not have survived the Second World
War. We live in the shadow of a post war monoculture that afflicts
*all* our institutions, particularly the ones engaged in Big (Money)
Science.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > > "Laszlo Lemhenyi" makes a good point!
> > >
> > > People like Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Davidians, etc.
> > > who do not "have their own state",
> > > ( Or more importantly, who do not have their own planet.)
> > > should make an effort to integrate into the
> > > state they are in, and interface in a peaceful,
> > > symbiotic way with their neighbors.
> > >
> > > ..............[/color]
> > I suggest that the root cause of the problem, is that Jewish Children
> > are subjected to too much religious/ethic brainwashing, and that
> > government must act to limit the amount of religious/ethnic dogma that
> > a child can be subjected to.
> > ....
> > Hy Tom
> > You had here a very very good point!
> > But one that has to be extended to other religious education too.
> > I can see that the muslim education ( and probably other ones too)
> > is equally primitive and aggressive as the extreme mozaic,
> > buddhist and other cults.
> > Actually,thinking of 9/11 ,even more aggressive.
> > Children are not able to judge what is right or wrong in
> > what they are being taught.
> > They should be protected, shielded from extremist ideas.
> > I am afraid that this is happening only in places
> > like USA.Canada, Western European countries --
> > where people have learnt (more or less) tolerate differences.
> > ---
> > I think you make a mistake speaking of Jews instead of
> > Jewish state.[/color]
>
> How do you account for the fact that
> Jews have come into conflict with almost every nation
> they have been in, including Egypt, Persia, England, Spain,
> Germany, lastly Russia, currently Palestine,
> and soon to be America?
>
> I dare say that they will never migrate to China, Japan,
> as time is running out for them to integrate peacefully
> with their neighbors. Unless something is done,
> there will be no place on Earth where Jews are welcome,
> after Americans turn against them.
>
> There is a fundamental problem here,
> that must be addressed as some Jews
> instigate conflict and war for power and riches,
> and this creates a problem for the larger Jewish community,
> and the world.[/color]

This is not the same as defining that problem, which has more to do
with the conditions dominating the lives of those in the Jewish
diaspora than the people themselves, who had no control over those
conditions.[color=blue]
>
> Even the famous Jewish historian Joseph
> recognized this problem, 2000 years ago.[/color]

Here again, if Josephus had known that 12th century England would
'ethnically cleanse' itself of all Jewish people in the most complete
act of genocide outside of (maybe) the Latvian pogrom under the Nazis,
but then English people would claim they had 'fought a Jew war' from
1939 to '45, as if they had always sought to protect Jewish interests,
I wonder if he would have seen the problem as being instigated by
certain Jews rather than certain Gentiles.

Steve Shires.
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Robert,
I tend to ignore such discussons, but..

"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:bludi5$gbmed$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...
[lengthy discussion snipped]

well put!
regards
Robert


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"Noah Roberts" <nroberts@dontemailme.com> wrote in message
news:blttf4$8b7$1@quark.scn.rain.com...[color=blue]
> Ashish wrote:[color=green]
> > "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:blsjmn$fvi87$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > Why is this being discussed in comp.lang.c???
> >
> >[/color]
> Obviously because IT IS FULL OF JEWS!!! Jews are taking over
> comp.lang.c because their greedy grubby need to take over everything is
> finally seeping into the C language. Next thing you know they will be
> trying to rewrite the standard. The entire reason for my low IQ and
> inability to succeed in life can be attributed to jews. If it wasn't
> for all the damn JEWS in science I wouldn't have to study! They keep
> taking all the women too, being all "nice" and treating them with
> "respect" and making me look like a complete ass. They took all the
> jobs, now there is no point even looking for one. All I can do is sit
> around all day filled with self pity and loathing for the damn JEWS who
> did this to me. I hate my life and its all the fault of the Jew!
>[/color]

Racist post...


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Ashish wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Racist post...
>[/color]
Very funny posting. Methinks you are humor impared.

Bob Kolker
[color=blue]
>[/color]

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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:bludi5$gbmed$1@ID-76471.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
>
>
> Tom Potter wrote:
>[color=green]
> > 4. Give up Hammarabi's laws,
> > and learn that turning the other cheek
> > is a better social strategy in a civilized world.[/color]
>
> If thine enemy smite thee on thy cheek, tear his head off and shit down
> his neck. You are advocating a girly religion for girly men. A real man
> kills his enemies, takes his land and cattler, rapes his women, enslaves
> his children and contemplates how good life can be.
>[color=green]
> > As I mentioned,
> > the Jews have worn out their welcome
> > in most parts of the world,
> > and when Americans turn against them,
> > (As they will within ten years.)
> > there will be no place on Earth where they
> > are welcome.[/color]
>
> When we leave the U.S. can we take the Salk and Sabin vaccines with us?
> And let gentile children die each summer from polio.[/color]

John Enders is the person most responsible for the
development of the polio vaccines, as he was the first
to isolate and culture the virus outside of a nerve cell.
He received the Nobel Prize for this work.

What Salk did was kill the virus by soaking in formaldehyde
for a couple of weeks.

Salk and Sabin had better press agents than Enders.

--
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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ashish wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > Racist post...
> >[/color]
> Very funny posting. Methinks you are humor impared.
>[/color]

Forgot to attach the <sarcasm> tag, sorry :-(



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Tom Potter wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Salk and Sabin had better press agents than Enders.[/color]

Salk and Sabin delivered the goods that did the job, namely to produce
an immunity to the virus. Lab work is indespensible, but it is not
sufficient to produce a usable product.

Bob Kolker

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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Tom Potter wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > Salk and Sabin had better press agents than Enders.[/color]
>
> Salk and Sabin delivered the goods that did the job, namely to produce
> an immunity to the virus. Lab work is indespensible, but it is not
> sufficient to produce a usable product.[/color]

Bob Kolker raises a good point!

Truck drivers should get the credit for delivering
usable products to the consumers.

Or maybe druggests, as they
make a final handoff to the consumer.

Why should Enders get all the credit,
just because he managed to isolate the polio virus,
and grow it outside of nerve cells.

After all he did get the Nobel Prize,
and that should be reward enough.

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us



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