Netequette | |
I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there is
a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I was
wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for this
group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in the
forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously not
every newbie question possible). I
figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a little
ignorance. Thanks.
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:21:30 GMT, "Jebus" <putang1080@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
>However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there is
>a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I was
>wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
>forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
>actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
>beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for this
>group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in the
>forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously not
>every newbie question possible). I
>figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
>since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
>just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a little
>ignorance. Thanks.
>[/color]
Newbie questions aren't considered off-topic, but I'm wondering how you got
the impression that there isn't "punctuality" on acllc-c++? Is ten minutes
for a response acceptable, but half an hour just too long for you to wait?
Most questions on acllc-c++ tend to get answered pretty quickly (at least
they do when I'm on patrol...whether or not I'm the one doing the
answering)
-leor
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:21:30 GMT, "Jebus" <putang1080@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
>However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there is
>a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I was
>wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
>forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
>actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
>beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for this
>group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in the
>forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously not
>every newbie question possible). I
>figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
>since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
>just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a little
>ignorance. Thanks.
>[/color]
Newbie questions aren't considered off-topic, but I'm wondering how you got
the impression that there isn't "punctuality" on acllc-c++? Is ten minutes
for a response acceptable, but half an hour just too long for you to wait?
Most questions on acllc-c++ tend to get answered pretty quickly (at least
they do when I'm on patrol...whether or not I'm the one doing the
answering)
-leor
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C++ users: Download BD Software's free STL Error Message Decryptor at: www.bdsoft.com/tools/stlfilt.html | | | | re: Netequette
Jebus wrote:
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> I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there
> is a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I
> was wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in
> this
> forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
> actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
> beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for
> this group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in
> the forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's
> obviously not
> every newbie question possible). I
> figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
> since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
> just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a
> little
> ignorance. Thanks.[/color]
The 'rule' more or less is, don't post a question which is answered here: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/
The FAQ really is worth looking at. Worth looking at in particular is the
section on posting to this newsgroup. It will help you understand what
might otherwise seem like rude behavior on the part of people here.
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Jebus wrote:
[color=blue]
> I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there
> is a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I
> was wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in
> this
> forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
> actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
> beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for
> this group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in
> the forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's
> obviously not
> every newbie question possible). I
> figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
> since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
> just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a
> little
> ignorance. Thanks.[/color]
The 'rule' more or less is, don't post a question which is answered here: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/
The FAQ really is worth looking at. Worth looking at in particular is the
section on posting to this newsgroup. It will help you understand what
might otherwise seem like rude behavior on the part of people here.
--
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Jebus wrote:
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> I was wondering if there is
> a rule against posting beginner questions in this forum?[/color]
No.
Just post your question.
If it is off-topic or there is a more appropriate forum
other subscribers will re-direct you.
| | | | re: Netequette
Jebus wrote:
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> I was wondering if there is
> a rule against posting beginner questions in this forum?[/color]
No.
Just post your question.
If it is off-topic or there is a more appropriate forum
other subscribers will re-direct you.
| | | | re: Netequette
"Jebus" <putang1080@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Kuocc.11697$u81.3962@newssvr15.news.prodigy.c om...[color=blue]
> I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there[/color]
is[color=blue]
> a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I[/color]
was[color=blue]
> wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
> forum?[/color]
Newbie questions are fine.
john | | | | re: Netequette
"Jebus" <putang1080@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Kuocc.11697$u81.3962@newssvr15.news.prodigy.c om...[color=blue]
> I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there[/color]
is[color=blue]
> a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I[/color]
was[color=blue]
> wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
> forum?[/color]
Newbie questions are fine.
john | | | | re: Netequette
Jebus wrote:
[color=blue]
> I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there is
> a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I was
> wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
> forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
> actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
> beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for this
> group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in the
> forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously not
> every newbie question possible). I
> figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
> since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
> just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a little
> ignorance. Thanks.
>[/color]
There's no rule against it, but people who ask extremely basic
questions, particularly those who ask many of them, are likely to be
told that they need to get a decent book and refer to it. The group is
not a replacement for a good book, and while many people here are
willing to answer simple questions, it can get annoying.
If you are to the point that you can understand a good chunk of what's
in the FAQ, then your questions are probably advanced enough to avoid
this. But a good book (or several), if you don't already have one, is
highly recommended anyway. (I think the alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ FAQ
has a decent book recommendations section, if you need it.)
-Kevin
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| | | | re: Netequette
Jebus wrote:
[color=blue]
> I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know there is
> a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I was
> wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
> forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
> actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
> beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for this
> group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in the
> forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously not
> every newbie question possible). I
> figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
> since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature). I
> just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a little
> ignorance. Thanks.
>[/color]
There's no rule against it, but people who ask extremely basic
questions, particularly those who ask many of them, are likely to be
told that they need to get a decent book and refer to it. The group is
not a replacement for a good book, and while many people here are
willing to answer simple questions, it can get annoying.
If you are to the point that you can understand a good chunk of what's
in the FAQ, then your questions are probably advanced enough to avoid
this. But a good book (or several), if you don't already have one, is
highly recommended anyway. (I think the alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ FAQ
has a decent book recommendations section, if you need it.)
-Kevin
--
My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
To contact me please use the address from a recent posting.
| | | | re: Netequette
Alright, well thanks you guys. I do have a book, but teaching something on
your own can get confusing, and so far I've figured it out on my own. I
just wanted to prepare because I'm pretty sure I'll end up having to post a
few questions here. Thanks.
"Kevin Goodsell" <usenet2.spamfree.fusion@neverbox.com> wrote in message
news:K5tcc.17709$lt2.5143@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...[color=blue]
> Jebus wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> > However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know[/color][/color]
there is[color=blue][color=green]
> > a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I[/color][/color]
was[color=blue][color=green]
> > wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
> > forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
> > actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
> > beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for[/color][/color]
this[color=blue][color=green]
> > group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously[/color][/color]
not[color=blue][color=green]
> > every newbie question possible). I
> > figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
> > since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature).[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a[/color][/color]
little[color=blue][color=green]
> > ignorance. Thanks.
> >[/color]
>
> There's no rule against it, but people who ask extremely basic
> questions, particularly those who ask many of them, are likely to be
> told that they need to get a decent book and refer to it. The group is
> not a replacement for a good book, and while many people here are
> willing to answer simple questions, it can get annoying.
>
> If you are to the point that you can understand a good chunk of what's
> in the FAQ, then your questions are probably advanced enough to avoid
> this. But a good book (or several), if you don't already have one, is
> highly recommended anyway. (I think the alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ FAQ
> has a decent book recommendations section, if you need it.)
>
> -Kevin
> --
> My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
> To contact me please use the address from a recent posting.[/color]
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Alright, well thanks you guys. I do have a book, but teaching something on
your own can get confusing, and so far I've figured it out on my own. I
just wanted to prepare because I'm pretty sure I'll end up having to post a
few questions here. Thanks.
"Kevin Goodsell" <usenet2.spamfree.fusion@neverbox.com> wrote in message
news:K5tcc.17709$lt2.5143@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...[color=blue]
> Jebus wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I've been reading the posts from comp.lang.c++ for a few weeks now.
> > However, I've noticed that much of the topics are advanced. I know[/color][/color]
there is[color=blue][color=green]
> > a alt.comp.lang.learn.c++ forum, more specifically for beginners, but I[/color][/color]
was[color=blue][color=green]
> > wondering if there is a rule against posting beginner questions in this
> > forum? I like this forum because of its punctuality and how questions
> > actually get answered in here (as long as they're on topic). I, being a
> > beginner, obviously have lots of questions. I was reading the faq for[/color][/color]
this[color=blue][color=green]
> > group, but I don't recall seeing anything about "newbie" questions in[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > forum ( I did see the part about newbie questions, but that's obviously[/color][/color]
not[color=blue][color=green]
> > every newbie question possible). I
> > figured it would be ok as long as I keep things on topic (which I would
> > since I'm nowhere near OS or any specific programming of that nature).[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > just wanted to make sure before being driven off this newgroup for a[/color][/color]
little[color=blue][color=green]
> > ignorance. Thanks.
> >[/color]
>
> There's no rule against it, but people who ask extremely basic
> questions, particularly those who ask many of them, are likely to be
> told that they need to get a decent book and refer to it. The group is
> not a replacement for a good book, and while many people here are
> willing to answer simple questions, it can get annoying.
>
> If you are to the point that you can understand a good chunk of what's
> in the FAQ, then your questions are probably advanced enough to avoid
> this. But a good book (or several), if you don't already have one, is
> highly recommended anyway. (I think the alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ FAQ
> has a decent book recommendations section, if you need it.)
>
> -Kevin
> --
> My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
> To contact me please use the address from a recent posting.[/color]
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Jebus wrote:
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> Alright, well thanks you guys.[/color]
You said earlier, "I've been reading the FAQ for this group...", and
your post was specifically about netiquette, but it seems you didn't pay
very close attention to the section of the FAQ that covers netiquette.
I'd suggest going over it again. In particular: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lit...t.html#faq-5.4
* Do not top-post. In other words, don't type your reply
above the previous author's text. Even if top-posting
seems "natural" or "obvious" or "better," don't do it —
it's not the comp.lang.c++ "way."
[...]
BTW here's a cute joke that tells you how people feel
about top-posting (with credits to "Gordon" on apihna):
A: Top posting!
Q: What is the most irritating thing on Usenet?
Another thing that isn't mentioned in that FAQ but should be, is "Please
don't quote the complete message when only part of it is relevant to
your reply -- trim the quoted text down to the relevant part."
These rules apply to all one-to-many communications on the 'net, and are
codified in RFC 1855: Netiquette Guidelines.
-Kevin
--
My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
To contact me please use the address from a recent posting. | | | | re: Netequette
Jebus wrote:
[color=blue]
> Alright, well thanks you guys.[/color]
You said earlier, "I've been reading the FAQ for this group...", and
your post was specifically about netiquette, but it seems you didn't pay
very close attention to the section of the FAQ that covers netiquette.
I'd suggest going over it again. In particular: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lit...t.html#faq-5.4
* Do not top-post. In other words, don't type your reply
above the previous author's text. Even if top-posting
seems "natural" or "obvious" or "better," don't do it —
it's not the comp.lang.c++ "way."
[...]
BTW here's a cute joke that tells you how people feel
about top-posting (with credits to "Gordon" on apihna):
A: Top posting!
Q: What is the most irritating thing on Usenet?
Another thing that isn't mentioned in that FAQ but should be, is "Please
don't quote the complete message when only part of it is relevant to
your reply -- trim the quoted text down to the relevant part."
These rules apply to all one-to-many communications on the 'net, and are
codified in RFC 1855: Netiquette Guidelines.
-Kevin
--
My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
To contact me please use the address from a recent posting. | | | | re: Netequette
In article <1pwcc.11835$2l3.9535@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com >,
Jebus <putang1080@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>Alright, well thanks you guys. I do have a book, but teaching something on
>your own can get confusing,[/color]
That's OK. If you say something like, "I read in [...] that [...] but I
don't understand it, can someone clarify it?", I don't see how anyone
could object to that.
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Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA | | | | re: Netequette
In article <1pwcc.11835$2l3.9535@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com >,
Jebus <putang1080@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>Alright, well thanks you guys. I do have a book, but teaching something on
>your own can get confusing,[/color]
That's OK. If you say something like, "I read in [...] that [...] but I
don't understand it, can someone clarify it?", I don't see how anyone
could object to that.
--
Jon Bell <jtbellm4h@presby.edu> Presbyterian College
Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA |  |
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