David,
I do agree this is a "best-effort" group. I was venting my frustration, and
I appreciate your help.
We are exploring the fixes and will contact PSS. from a brief glance we
should have all the fixes included since we are running service pack 4, but
we need to take a closer look.
You mentioned we can turn off ASP caching, and "and still perform
comparably" . Are there any stats for this? we are talking about IIS having
to fetch a file from a remote disk for every client request, right?
FYI- I have seen posts from people complaining about the same problem in IIS
6
"David Wang [Msft]" <someone@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23b%23IvBpAFHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> This newsgroup is peer support. There are Microsoft employees monitoring[/color]
the[color=blue]
> newsgroup on their own personal time, but from the sheer volume of posts,[/color]
I[color=blue]
> hope you can accept my apology at not being able to answer every single
> question. I hope you agree that non-paid support is best-effort.
>
> That point aside:
> 1. You are complaining about File change notification (which is the
> mechanism that ASP uses to figure out if a file has "changed" on disk)[/color]
over[color=blue]
> UNC shares. That whole scenario has a series of scalability/reliability
> problems which we've resolved for ASP on IIS6 such that it still caches[/color]
over[color=blue]
> UNC but updates quickly on updates. If you believe you are seeing an IIS
> bug/issue, you can contact Microsoft PSS for assistance. There won't be a
> charge if it is an IIS bug -- but if you misconfigured... it is only fair[/color]
to[color=blue]
> charge you.
>
> Be sure you have read and understood the following URL regarding usage of
> UNC shares with IIS.
>[/color]
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../remstorg.mspx[color=blue]
>
> It talks about IIS6, but general principles apply to IIS5. It also has a
> list of IIS4/IIS5 KBs, in particular the following one titled "File Change
> Notifications are Lost when Content is on a UNC share" with an associated
> QFE which you must contact PSS to obtain:
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;281253
>
> I recommend at least contacting PSS and trying QFE 281253, as well as make
> sure your UNC scenario is configured correctly. As I've said, UNC on IIS5
> has known issues and really wasn't designed to work with it, so I would[/color]
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> dream that it is as easy as on IIS6.
>
> 2. I'm willing to bet that Cold Fusion doesn't have update issues because[/color]
it[color=blue]
> does not cache well. Thus, to do an apples-to-apples comparison against[/color]
ASP,[color=blue]
> turn off ASP's caching. I'm sure you will see ASP not miss any updates,
> either, and still perform comparably.
>
> --
> //David
> IIS
>
http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no[/color]
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> //
> "Jerome Cohen" <yoram.ayalon@structuredweb.com> wrote in message
> news:eHzCJDmAFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> This problem is driving us mad, and I saw someone else posting a very
> similar problem, again no support from MS!
>
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> Win2K/IIS 5.0, web farm load balanced by Local director. same setup on[/color]
each[color=blue]
> web server.
>
> I have an application that is mapped to a network folder, physically[/color]
located[color=blue]
> on a file server , also Win2K.
> on each web server, the root level of the application, directly located
> under "Default Web Site", is maped liked this: \\fileserver\rootDir . we
> have dozens of foldfers under the main folder.
>
> When we update ASP files, some times, some
> web servers, continue to server the old version even 1-2 days after the
> update, and we have to reset IIS. the mapping has been checked numerous
> times, its 100%. the same web server can react to updates on same folder ,
> and next time not react.
>
> date-time synched perfectly among file server and all web servers.
>
> important to notice - same web servers host also CFM pages on same[/color]
physical[color=blue]
> folder, mapped by CFM admin on each web server. NEVER had a problem with
> ColdFusion not recognizing an update!
>
>
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