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PC Datasheet
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#1: Nov 13 '05
I am formally complaining to CDMA regarding being harassed by Arno R and am
asking if there is anyone to send my complaint to. I responded to a post by
Sparks dated 9/29 with the subject "Mail Merge Access97 And Word". Arno R
posted a harassing response to my response and his action is uncalled for
and I am seeking that Arno R be sanctioned for his actions and if it
continues he be forever banned from CDMA. Lyle Fairfield recently posted his
concerns regarding CDMA declining and Arno R's self-serving actions
certainly discourage people from participating and contributing to CDMA.
Arno R's actions seriously take down the reputation of CDMA and will
continue to drive people away from CDMA. Don M certainly drove many people
away from CDMA and Arno R is doing the same thing. It has now reached the
point to see if you really care about CDMA's future.

Steve
PC Datasheet



Keith
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"PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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<snip drivel>

I'll support your complaint. E-mail me at the address below, you'll find my
fees very reasonable.


PC Datasheet
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#3: Nov 13 '05

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It is not surprising to see you quickly respond to my post. Your message
rings loud and clear that you don't care at all about CDMA!!!!


"Keith" <keith.wilby@baeAWAYWITHITsystems.com> wrote in message
news:43317ec2$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...[color=blue]
> "PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote in message
> news:PQeYe.1658$vw6.51@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> <snip drivel>
>
> I'll support your complaint. E-mail me at the address below, you'll find
> my fees very reasonable.
>[/color]


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#4: Nov 13 '05

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Steve, as I was saying:
You still don't understand... You are just a sad, sad individual.
IMO you are the one that needs help ... (psychiatric)

To the group:
Don't let Steve fool you. Maybe to some people here it seems that Steve has learned?
He even posted questions as PCD didn't he?
I know that, and I also stated that he was not advertising in the thread he mentiones, but ...

PC has been playing the 'nicest of all' people here lately.
In the meantime he has been advertising/jobhunting as usual in the microsoft.public.access.* groups.
Last week he advertised in 6 different threads: ms.public.access.gettingstarted
-- Computer Inventory question
-- Still need to track attendance of bus riders
-- Before i throw myself into Access, a small question....
-- Building a database
-- Phone support
-- Help, no table

Same old story ... he learned nothing.
He just does not give a shit about what other people think.
Who cares about cdma?

Arno R


<snip lunatic accusations from PCD>
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I am adding to my complaint my response on MS Access Getting Started to
Howard "Access 97 Northwind.mdb" 9/20 and to Arno R's post to this thread.
Are you going to let him to continue to bring down the reputation of CDMA
and other newsgroups?

Steve
PC Datasheet


"PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:PQeYe.1658$vw6.51@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...[color=blue]
>I am formally complaining to CDMA regarding being harassed by Arno R and am
>asking if there is anyone to send my complaint to. I responded to a post by
>Sparks dated 9/29 with the subject "Mail Merge Access97 And Word". Arno R
>posted a harassing response to my response and his action is uncalled for
>and I am seeking that Arno R be sanctioned for his actions and if it
>continues he be forever banned from CDMA. Lyle Fairfield recently posted
>his concerns regarding CDMA declining and Arno R's self-serving actions
>certainly discourage people from participating and contributing to CDMA.
>Arno R's actions seriously take down the reputation of CDMA and will
>continue to drive people away from CDMA. Don M certainly drove many people
>away from CDMA and Arno R is doing the same thing. It has now reached the
>point to see if you really care about CDMA's future.
>
> Steve
> PC Datasheet
>[/color]


Randy Harris
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"Keith" <keith.wilby@baeAWAYWITHITsystems.com> wrote in message
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> "PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote in message
> news:PQeYe.1658$vw6.51@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> <snip drivel>
>
> I'll support your complaint. E-mail me at the address below, you'll find[/color]
my[color=blue]
> fees very reasonable.
>
>[/color]

Too funny for words. I can't stop laughing.

Chuck Grimsby
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:18:07 GMT, "PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam>
wrote:[color=blue]
>I am formally complaining to CDMA regarding being harassed by Arno R and am
>asking if there is anyone to send my complaint to.[/color]

This is Usenet, there is no way to (practically) moderate this (or any
other) newsgroup.

Plonk him if you don't like his posts. I have "Arno R" plonked, so I
don't see his posts, except for when someone quotes his post(s) in
their own.

Just see him as (yet another) troll and follow the standard Usenet
rules for dealing with trolls. (A "troll", by the way, is usually
defined as someone who posts a message with the hopes they will get a
response. These posts are usually almost always irritating in nature,
but always by irritating by design.)


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"PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:PQeYe.1658$vw6.51@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...[color=blue]
>I am formally complaining to CDMA regarding being harassed by Arno R and am
>asking if there is anyone to send my complaint to. I responded to a post by
>Sparks dated 9/29 with the subject "Mail Merge Access97 And Word". Arno R
>posted a harassing response to my response and his action is uncalled for
>and I am seeking that Arno R be sanctioned for his actions and if it
>continues he be forever banned from CDMA. Lyle Fairfield recently posted
>his concerns regarding CDMA declining and Arno R's self-serving actions
>certainly discourage people from participating and contributing to CDMA.
>Arno R's actions seriously take down the reputation of CDMA and will
>continue to drive people away from CDMA. Don M certainly drove many people
>away from CDMA and Arno R is doing the same thing. It has now reached the
>point to see if you really care about CDMA's future.
>
> Steve
> PC Datasheet
>[/color]


Your complaint has been recorded by CDMA management, and the following
action will be taken:

"Arno R" will be demoted to MVP status for a period of six months, after
which a review of his behavior will be undertaken. If CDMA management
determines from the record that "Arno R" has not improved his behavior, his
MVP status will be made permanent.


Steve Jorgensen
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:18:07 GMT, "PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote:
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>I am formally complaining to CDMA regarding being harassed by Arno R and am
>asking if there is anyone to send my complaint to. I responded to a post by
>Sparks dated 9/29 with the subject "Mail Merge Access97 And Word". Arno R
>posted a harassing response to my response and his action is uncalled for
>and I am seeking that Arno R be sanctioned for his actions and if it
>continues he be forever banned from CDMA. Lyle Fairfield recently posted his
>concerns regarding CDMA declining and Arno R's self-serving actions
>certainly discourage people from participating and contributing to CDMA.
>Arno R's actions seriously take down the reputation of CDMA and will
>continue to drive people away from CDMA. Don M certainly drove many people
>away from CDMA and Arno R is doing the same thing. It has now reached the
>point to see if you really care about CDMA's future.
>
>Steve
>PC Datasheet
>[/color]

I'm assuming your post is sincere, though this kind of post is a surefire way
to start a troll storm.

Since this is an unmoderated group, there's "officially" nothing to be done
about undesirable posts, harassment, etc. If someone does something illegal,
you can get help from law enforcement. If someone's identity can be tracked
down, and they have an ISP that cares, you can complain to the ISP and have
their account revoked - a very temporary solution since persistent trolls seem
to be supported by mommy and daddy and have plenty of time and money to sign
up for new accounts.

I used to get up in arms, worried, and/or offended by troll storms on CDMA,
but I've seen the scarriest of storms come and go enough to realize that
nothing I do will help, and they eventually go away - until they come back.
Some people just have too much time on their hands.

I do take the time to lodge complaints with ISPs when that looks like it might
help, but I never post to CDMA about it except the occasional educational post
like this one or to point out that a post is probably a troll if it might not
be obvious to everyone. More posts about trolls are just more fuel.
Trevor Best
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PC Datasheet wrote:[color=blue]
> It is not surprising to see you quickly respond to my post. Your message
> rings loud and clear that you don't care at all about CDMA!!!![/color]

He only responded the same way you do to many posts, if you think that
is not caring about CDMA then think about what you usually post.
Keith
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"PC Datasheet" <nospam@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:BygYe.2440$q1.63@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink .net...[color=blue]
> It is not surprising to see you quickly respond to my post. Your message
> rings loud and clear that you don't care at all about CDMA!!!!
>[/color]
You don't know what I think or care about. Why do you claim you do, are you
Uri Geller? No, even he has far more dignity and professionalism than you.


Keith
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"Randy Harris" <randy@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
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>[color=green]
>> I'll support your complaint. E-mail me at the address below, you'll find[/color]
> my[color=green]
>> fees very reasonable.
>>[/color]
> Too funny for words. I can't stop laughing.
>[/color]
My work here is done :o)


Tim Marshall
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#13: Nov 13 '05

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Trevor Best wrote:
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> He only responded the same way you do to many posts, if you think that
> is not caring about CDMA then think about what you usually post.[/color]

I think we should cut Steve some slack on cdma - he's been abiding by
the charter, IMO, since the bit of nastiness in June/July.

Generally, I support what Arno is doing (usenet is supposed to be
self-regulating, and those of us who are grognards on other groups have
seen many destroyed by people snubbing group charters); HOWEVER, I do
think it's better that if a problem is occurring on one newsgroup or set
of groups, it should stay there and not spill over into others.
Apparently there are some issues on the ms groups, but I can't comment
on them as I don't know their respective charters and I don't post on
them (except as a result of answering to a cross-post here) - my
university news feed doesn't carry the MS groups (unfortunately, but
that's another rant!).

So, in summary - as of late, Steve has been fine and contributing
positively here on cdma and what happens in other groups should be dealt
with in those groups.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
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/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Larry Linson
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What part of "there is no moderator or moderating body for USENET
newsgroups" did you not understand, the last several times that has been
explained to you, Steve?

If you are unhappy with any poster, and think that poster is violating the
Terms of Service or Acceptable Use Policy of the ISP and/or news server,
complain by e-mail, with a copy of the offending post and full headers, to
the user's ISP and/or news server.

Those are the only entities which can "sanction" a poster -- if the
violation of their TOS or AUP, in their eyes, warrants such action, they
might cancel the account. On the other hand, a cancelled account (as has
already been explained to you) is, most often, nothing but a minor
inconvenience.

If you generally find the posts of a particular poster offensive, block that
poster in your newsreader. Just for the record, your post here has already
drawn a response from at least one troll.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP


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In article <PQeYe.1658$vw6.51@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.ne t>,
nospam@nospam.spam says...[color=blue]
> I am formally complaining to CDMA regarding being harassed by Arno R and am
> asking if there is anyone to send my complaint to. I responded to a post by
> Sparks dated 9/29 with the subject "Mail Merge Access97 And Word". Arno R
> posted a harassing response to my response and his action is uncalled for
> and I am seeking that Arno R be sanctioned for his actions and if it
> continues he be forever banned from CDMA. Lyle Fairfield recently posted his
> concerns regarding CDMA declining and Arno R's self-serving actions
> certainly discourage people from participating and contributing to CDMA.
> Arno R's actions seriously take down the reputation of CDMA and will
> continue to drive people away from CDMA. Don M certainly drove many people
> away from CDMA and Arno R is doing the same thing. It has now reached the
> point to see if you really care about CDMA's future.
>
> Steve
> PC Datasheet
>
>[/color]
WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHH!

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