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Old July 20th, 2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Web authoring tools on Macintosh OS X

I'm contemplating switching from Windows (long time user) to a
Macintosh (a system I know virtually nothing about), so I am
looking for equivalent (or better) programs for some tasks.

I do a little hobby web site (380 pages - maybe it expanded more
than I thought) using The Semware Editor (an old DOS editor) with
some HTML color coding add-ons, and CSE HTML validator to catch
typos, backed by validator.w3.org (when I remember).

At the moment it is all hand written in HTML 4.01 Strict pretty
much, with very plain HTML markup (a lot of it legacy stuff from
long ago) and a CSS file in each directory to give some visual
differences to each different topic area on the site. No
scripting at all. Only about a dozen pages with inappropriate
tables (I'll fix them next major rewrite). I also figure some of
my viewers are browsing with small screen PDAs or even mobile
phones, so I try to have everything that depends on CSS fail
gracefully.

Does anyone have any special favourites for Mac OS X HTML editor,
offline HTML and/or CSS validator, link checkers, or anything
else that might make clean web page generation easier for an
amateur?

This potential move also seemed an appropriate time to consider
moving some aspects of my site to database driven generation of
the web pages. This would only be for some of the pages. Lists
of boat trips, lists of programs, that sort of stuff, maybe
20-30% of the total pages, but harder to keep track of changes
because some items appear on multiple pages (and could be better
served by being on additional pages).

I was thinking offline generation of my pages on my local
machine, followed by uploading changed pages to the commercial
web server I use say once a week. I don't think I want to get
into generating pages on the fly on the server.

However in this area there seems a lot of almost conflicting
potential ways of doing the pages. Some of the texts I've seen
seem to indicate you should generate your material in XML, and
then convert into HTML. While I sort of like the idea of XML,
the books I've seen make this sound pretty complicated for a
hobby situation. Nor did it seem really clear which tools to
look for. To be honest, having looked at a couple of O'Reilly
books on XML, I'm not sure it is appropriate to a hobby user.

The other way seems to be to gather my raw information in a
database (for various reasons, some of it is most easily
collected and updated on a PDA while wandering around, so it
would probably end up as a CSV file). Then use scripts on some
sort of text extraction tool (Awk, Perl, PHP, Rebol, Rexx?) to
generate appropriate web pages. I know I'll have a bit of a
fight with whatever scripting language I choose, but once I get
one type of web page extracted, it will be a lot easier to write
other scripts for all the other web pages.

Has anyone any suggestions about approaches? Is there anything
particularly appropriate to OS X that I have ignored? It seems
to me that there would be many people in a similar situation, and
therefore there is probably some absolutely great, ready to use
tool out there, and I've just searched badly so far.

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Old July 20th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Bruce Grubb
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Default Re: Web authoring tools on Macintosh OS X

In article <40078f02.39683913@news.bigpond.com>,
jan2004@ericlindsayINVALID.comDOMAIN (Eric Lindsay's spam trap) wrote:
[color=blue]
> I'm contemplating switching from Windows (long time user) to a
> Macintosh (a system I know virtually nothing about), so I am
> looking for equivalent (or better) programs for some tasks.
>
> I do a little hobby web site (380 pages - maybe it expanded more
> than I thought) using The Semware Editor (an old DOS editor) with
> some HTML color coding add-ons, and CSE HTML validator to catch
> typos, backed by validator.w3.org (when I remember).
>
> At the moment it is all hand written in HTML 4.01 Strict pretty
> much, with very plain HTML markup (a lot of it legacy stuff from
> long ago) and a CSS file in each directory to give some visual
> differences to each different topic area on the site. No
> scripting at all. Only about a dozen pages with inappropriate
> tables (I'll fix them next major rewrite). I also figure some of
> my viewers are browsing with small screen PDAs or even mobile
> phones, so I try to have everything that depends on CSS fail
> gracefully.
>
> Does anyone have any special favourites for Mac OS X HTML editor,
> offline HTML and/or CSS validator, link checkers, or anything
> else that might make clean web page generation easier for an
> amateur?[/color]

Balthisar Tidy <http://tidy.sourceforge.net/> is the MacOS X version of
the HTML Tidy project and is a must have for anyone want to make sure their
pages is valid.

As far as authoring is concerned I have found that using something that
generates HTML with the least amount of errors and using a text editor to
correct common gafts (like AppleWorks use of <br><br> rather than </p><p>
or Netscape composer using numberical values like “ instead of
&rdquo;) and then throw the corrected file at Balthisar Tidy for the final
clean up is the best way to go.

I have found that AppleWorks genrates the least number of boneheaded HTML
glitchs and it HTML pages are straight forward to clean up using Tex-Edit
pro for the final clean up via Balthisar Tidy.

I use Link Checker X for my pages and it works as good as the now defunk
Big Brother program did. Note that neither program will validates ftp
links so if you have a lot of those you are going to have problems.

Hope this little bit helps.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 05:51 PM
ken ullman
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Default Re: Web authoring tools on Macintosh OS X

On 2/12/04 11:37 PM, in article
bgrubb-7D18DD.22375112022004@news.zianet.com, "Bruce Grubb"
<bgrubb@zianet.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <40078f02.39683913@news.bigpond.com>,
> jan2004@ericlindsayINVALID.comDOMAIN (Eric Lindsay's spam trap) wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I'm contemplating switching from Windows (long time user) to a
>> Macintosh (a system I know virtually nothing about), so I am
>> looking for equivalent (or better) programs for some tasks.
>>
>> I do a little hobby web site (380 pages - maybe it expanded more
>> than I thought) using The Semware Editor (an old DOS editor) with
>> some HTML color coding add-ons, and CSE HTML validator to catch
>> typos, backed by validator.w3.org (when I remember).
>>
>> At the moment it is all hand written in HTML 4.01 Strict pretty
>> much, with very plain HTML markup (a lot of it legacy stuff from
>> long ago) and a CSS file in each directory to give some visual
>> differences to each different topic area on the site. No
>> scripting at all. Only about a dozen pages with inappropriate
>> tables (I'll fix them next major rewrite). I also figure some of
>> my viewers are browsing with small screen PDAs or even mobile
>> phones, so I try to have everything that depends on CSS fail
>> gracefully.
>>
>> Does anyone have any special favourites for Mac OS X HTML editor,
>> offline HTML and/or CSS validator, link checkers, or anything
>> else that might make clean web page generation easier for an
>> amateur?[/color]
>
> Balthisar Tidy <http://tidy.sourceforge.net/> is the MacOS X version of
> the HTML Tidy project and is a must have for anyone want to make sure their
> pages is valid.
>
> As far as authoring is concerned I have found that using something that
> generates HTML with the least amount of errors and using a text editor to
> correct common gafts (like AppleWorks use of <br><br> rather than </p><p>
> or Netscape composer using numberical values like “ instead of
> &rdquo;) and then throw the corrected file at Balthisar Tidy for the final
> clean up is the best way to go.
>
> I have found that AppleWorks genrates the least number of boneheaded HTML
> glitchs and it HTML pages are straight forward to clean up using Tex-Edit
> pro for the final clean up via Balthisar Tidy.
>
> I use Link Checker X for my pages and it works as good as the now defunk
> Big Brother program did. Note that neither program will validates ftp
> links so if you have a lot of those you are going to have problems.
>
> Hope this little bit helps.[/color]
I use shareware call HTML Creator. It costs only $15 to register. It works
great. Plus after you have written your webpage, you can test it out on the
fly by choosing any browser that you have on you computer.

 

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