Changing color on consecutive letters.

#1 July 20th, 2005, 04:19 PM

I would like to change the colors on consecutive letters of a word.
When adding a style associated with the span tag (see below), there is
a gap after each letter. Does anyone know why the span tag does this?
Is there a better way (or better tag) to accomplish what I'm trying to
do?

Thanks much!

- Jim

<html>
<body>
Here is some text.
H
e
l
l
o.
Here is some more text.
</body>
</html>

#2 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

> The span tag doesn't do anything. What you have minus the spans is[color=blue]
> H
> e
> l
> l
> o.[/color]

Yep - just to clarify that though, although html ignores line breaks during
code, which may make you think you can have them anywhere, they do still
appear as a space in the text. Its a common problem for people with sites
that have images that need to match up exactly.

David

#3 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Yep - just to clarify that though, although html ignores line
> breaks during code, which may make you think you can have them
> anywhere, they do still appear as a space in the text.[/color]

What makes you think HTML ignores line breaks?

In HTML, a line break is in most situations equivalent to a space.

In the given example, immediately after an end tag, they _should_ be
ignored (according to the SGML standard and HTML specifications), but
almost all browsers have always got this wrong.

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#4 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

In article <bfu2ag$2th$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
> > The span tag doesn't do anything. What you have minus the spans is
> > H
> > e
> > l
> > l
> > o.[/color]
>
> Yep - just to clarify that though, although html ignores line breaks during
> code, which may make you think you can have them anywhere, they do still
> appear as a space in the text. Its a common problem for people with sites
> that have images that need to match up exactly.[/color]

And often, when copying the text from a browser to another application,
the white space (tabs, spaces, double spaces, etc.) are copied with it.
This often creates effects unforseen by the author.

--
Kris
kristiaan@xs4all.netherlands (nl)
"We called him Tortoise because he taught us" said the Mock Turtle.

#5 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> What makes you think HTML ignores line breaks?[/color]
>
>I didn't mean ignore completely, just ignore in the sense that if you put a
>line break in the middle of a chunk of text, the text when renedered won't
>have that line break. I did say they apear as a space when rendered.[/color]

Depends:

<pre>
Foobar
Foobar
Foobar
</pre>

Headless

#6 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

In article <bfv9ta$dm8$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk> in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, David Walker
<wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> What makes you think HTML ignores line breaks?[/color]
>
>I didn't mean ignore completely, just ignore in the sense that if you put a
>line break in the middle of a chunk of text, the text when renedered won't
>have that line break. I did say they apear as a space when rendered.[/color]

"'When _I_ use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful
tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor
less.'"

:-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

#7 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

In article <bg1741$c5$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk> in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, David Walker
<wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>I think it is clear from that that I said that it ignores the line breaks
>(as a line break) in html, "but they appear as a space"!!!![/color]

Apparently the point of my quote from Lewis Carroll was not clear:
Your original statement that line breaks are "ignored" was wrong.
When that was pointed out (not by me), you tried to redefine
"ignore" and create a distinction between your newly-redefined word
and "ignore completely".
[color=blue]
>Its like being back at school having my essays checked! Sheesh! :o/[/color]

The difference is that here on Usenet everyone _chooses_ to put his
or her work up for criticism. No one need do it who does not wish
to. When you or I or anyone makes a false statement instead of
being silent, we can hardly then turn around and complain that we
are being "checked".

A grownup would say (or at least think) "Thank you for the
correction. Now I know something I didn't know before." I think most
of the regulars have had occasion to do that on occasion: certainly
I have.

Anyway, if your work was being checked I'd have something to say
about your use of the third person neuter present indicative of the
verb "to be".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

#8 July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM

"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I still stand by what I said:
>
> "Yep - just to clarify that though, although html ignores line
> breaks during code,[/color]

Well, if you insist, let us take a look at that exact statement.
It is patently false even in ways discussed yet. In _code_, i.e. in
tags, entity references, character references and (in theory) other
constructs that can reasonably be called HTML _code_, line breaks are
surely not ignored and in most cases not even equivalent to spaces.
Consider this:

<
title>Demo</tit
le>
&cop
y; Yucca

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