Debugger.

MJ wrote:

Quote: G'day. > I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, but I find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not liking the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche). > I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references to VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on. > Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please? >

If you find one, let us know.
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"MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message
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Quote: G'day. > I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, but

I

Quote: find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not

liking

Quote: the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche). > I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references

to

Quote: VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on. > Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please? >

What would you be looking for when debugging ASP pages taht VS6 doesn't
already do?


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Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing to
do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.

Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be. I've
noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with my
anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.

The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007 on-line
4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected. They
tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available, and I
don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.

Anyway, that's my story.

Cheers.
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Quote: "MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message news:e4CM3lP7IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Quote: >G'day. >> >I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, >but I Quote: >find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not liking Quote: >the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something >new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche). >> >I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references to Quote: >VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging >asp >pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on. >> >Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please? >> > What would you be looking for when debugging ASP pages taht VS6 doesn't already do? > > -- Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET > > >

Hi Bob, see my post in response to Anthony's query.

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcomwrote in message
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Quote: MJ wrote: Quote: >G'day. >> >I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works >well, but I find that I'd like something a little more robust and >newer. I'm not liking the way it works these days (by these days, I >mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a >Porsche). >> >I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and >references to VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp >debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger >programs and on and on. >> >Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please? >> If you find one, let us know. -- Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a quicker response by posting to the newsgroup. > > >

"MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message
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Quote: I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. I have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing

to

Quote: do with nothing. > So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision. >

As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even need
a project file.

Quote: Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.

I've

Quote: noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with

my

Quote: anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a guesses, so don't hold me to them. > In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer technologies and products. >

I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites, its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.

I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).

Quote: The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007

on-line

Quote: 4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30 days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.

They

Quote: tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade, and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is expired. > There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any further. > The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in their web site material), however they have no eval version available, and

I

Quote: don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice. >

You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.

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"Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
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Quote: "MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message news:uQmZbfS7IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Quote: >I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. >I >have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than >not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP >extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and >Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing to Quote: >do with nothing. >> >So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision. >> > As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in solution. Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even need a project file. > Quote: >Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be. I've Quote: >noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped >two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with my Quote: >anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a >guesses, so don't hold me to them. >> >In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer >technologies and products. >> > I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites, its a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server. > I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS (I'm primarily using VS2005). > > Quote: >The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their >update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007 on-line Quote: >4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30 >days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected. They Quote: >tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade, >and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is >expired. >> >There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any >further. >> >The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in >their web site material), however they have no eval version available, >and I Quote: >don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice. >> > You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version so I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free its worth a stab. >

You will need the full version of VS. The Express versions (Visual Web
Developer) don't support Attach to Process. So you can't use them for
debugging classic.

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MVP - ASP/ASP.NET

Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
see, I believe it will do quite well.

Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.

Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.

Thanks
"Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
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Quote: "MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message news:uQmZbfS7IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Quote: >I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. >I >have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than >not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP >extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and >Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing to Quote: >do with nothing. >> >So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision. >> > As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in solution. Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even need a project file. > Quote: >Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be. I've Quote: >noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped >two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with my Quote: >anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a >guesses, so don't hold me to them. >> >In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer >technologies and products. >> > I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites, its a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server. > I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS (I'm primarily using VS2005). > > Quote: >The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their >update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007 on-line Quote: >4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30 >days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected. They Quote: >tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade, >and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is >expired. >> >There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any >further. >> >The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in >their web site material), however they have no eval version available, >and I Quote: >don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice. >> > You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version so I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free its worth a stab. > -- Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET > > >

Thanks Mike, I am looking at VS2k5/8 as per Anthony's post and yours.

Cheers.
"Mike Brind [MVP]" <paxtonend@hotmail.comwrote in message
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Quote: > "Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadayada.comwrote in message news:OiBDdHW7IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Quote: >"MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message >news:uQmZbfS7IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Quote: >>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. >>I >>have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than >>not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP >>extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and >>Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing >to Quote: >>do with nothing. >>> >>So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision. >>> >> >As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in >solution. >Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even >need >a project file. >> Quote: >>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be. >I've Quote: >>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've >>stepped >>two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with >my Quote: >>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a >>guesses, so don't hold me to them. >>> >>In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer >>technologies and products. >>> >> >I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites, >its >a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus >scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server. >> >I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of >VS >(I'm primarily using VS2005). >> >> Quote: >>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their >>update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007 >on-line Quote: >>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After >>30 >>days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected. >They Quote: >>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the >>upgrade, >>and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is >>expired. >>> >>There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any >>further. >>> >>The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined >>in >>their web site material), however they have no eval version available, >>and >I Quote: >>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice. >>> >> >You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version >so >I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free >its worth a stab. >> > You will need the full version of VS. The Express versions (Visual Web Developer) don't support Attach to Process. So you can't use them for debugging classic. > -- Mike Brind MVP - ASP/ASP.NET > >

Quote: The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008.

where did you find this ??

Here is the link for ASP Studio: http://en.ewebxp.com/

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Quote: > Quote: >The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. where did you find this ?? > >

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Quote: Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I see, I believe it will do quite well. > Don't know why I didn't look into it myself. > Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to make sure before I proceed with purchasing it. >

Yes you can have VS6 and VS 2k8 on the same machine. Make sure you patch
2k8 once you get it.



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Thanks Anthony.

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Quote: "MJ" <mj.osullivan@yahoo.cawrote in message news:%231NKnKa7IHA.5440@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Quote: >Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I >see, I believe it will do quite well. >> >Don't know why I didn't look into it myself. >> >Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to >make sure before I proceed with purchasing it. >> > Yes you can have VS6 and VS 2k8 on the same machine. Make sure you patch 2k8 once you get it. > > > -- Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET > > >

Seems they only have a 2006 version -- there is no 2008 version.