What a Funny Goup! I Asked a Question About Boost (C++ Filesystem Interface) & All I Got Is: My Question Is Irrelevant!

#1 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
in particular Mr. David White,
is being absolutely ridiculous. Obviously, most of you up here
behave like the owners of the C++ language. A C++ interface
installation IS ABOUT THE C++ LANGUAGE! The language
does not possess the ability to handle even simple file directory
manipulation.
Those wise people that created it did not take care of it. So, BOOST
is a portable interface that contains a FILESYSTEM for handling
files and directories in the C++ LANGUAGE!
Now, where are you coming from telling me that a question about the
installation of such an important interface does not belong to this
group? Where did you learn logic? In a mental institution?
Also, you are wasting a lot of bandwidth with your childish responses
about relevance or irrelevance. Do you tell CNN to stop bothering you
with its commercials every 3 minutes? Sure you do, pseudo-elitists!
Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
messages. YOU do that, not me!

perseus

#2 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

no no no.....that message should have been posted in sci.med.drugs.valium!

(that said... I agree with you)

"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message
news:uqqhjvclg5341qr522j9adgau8q2807ei1@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
> in particular Mr. David White,
> is being absolutely ridiculous. Obviously, most of you up here
> behave like the owners of the C++ language. A C++ interface
> installation IS ABOUT THE C++ LANGUAGE! The language
> does not possess the ability to handle even simple file directory
> manipulation.
> Those wise people that created it did not take care of it. So, BOOST
> is a portable interface that contains a FILESYSTEM for handling
> files and directories in the C++ LANGUAGE!
> Now, where are you coming from telling me that a question about the
> installation of such an important interface does not belong to this
> group? Where did you learn logic? In a mental institution?
> Also, you are wasting a lot of bandwidth with your childish responses
> about relevance or irrelevance. Do you tell CNN to stop bothering you
> with its commercials every 3 minutes? Sure you do, pseudo-elitists!
> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
> messages. YOU do that, not me!
>
> perseus
>[/color]

#3 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...[color=blue]
> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
> in particular Mr. David White,
> is being absolutely ridiculous. [...]
> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
> messages. YOU do that, not me![/color]

Oh, really? So, this your message qualifies as necessary and
non-trivial? And if you are not told that your posting about
a product installation is irrelevant in a non-product newsgroup,
how would you know to stop posting irrelevant messages? Where
did _you_ learn logic?

#4 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:52:33 -0400, "Victor Bazarov"
<v.Abazarov@attAbi.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...[color=green]
>> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
>> in particular Mr. David White,
>> is being absolutely ridiculous. [...]
>> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
>> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
>> messages. YOU do that, not me![/color]
>
>Oh, really? So, this your message qualifies as necessary and
>non-trivial? And if you are not told that your posting about
>a product installation is irrelevant in a non-product newsgroup,
>how would you know to stop posting irrelevant messages? Where
>did _you_ learn logic?[/color]

Victor,

You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.
Obviously, you do not know the answer to my question.
So, stop feeling compelled to respond. You just don't know
the answer. Isn't that enough for you?

perseus

#5 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...[color=blue]
> [...]
> Victor,
>
> You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.
> Obviously, you do not know the answer to my question.
> So, stop feeling compelled to respond. You just don't know
> the answer. Isn't that enough for you?[/color]

It's just become enough for me. And probably for many others
in this newsgroup. Don't be surprised when _all_ your posts
will go unanswered.

#6 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

no hey keep going.....I haven't seen such pointless online bitch fighting
since I was 15...

just be careful now that no one accidentally posts something on topic in
this thread....

"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message
news:akshjvcf84fq7c24rm3qk8v1lofe05no98@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:52:33 -0400, "Victor Bazarov"
> <v.Abazarov@attAbi.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...[color=darkred]
> >> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
> >> in particular Mr. David White,
> >> is being absolutely ridiculous. [...]
> >> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
> >> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
> >> messages. YOU do that, not me![/color]
> >
> >Oh, really? So, this your message qualifies as necessary and
> >non-trivial? And if you are not told that your posting about
> >a product installation is irrelevant in a non-product newsgroup,
> >how would you know to stop posting irrelevant messages? Where
> >did _you_ learn logic?[/color]
>
> Victor,
>
> You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.
> Obviously, you do not know the answer to my question.
> So, stop feeling compelled to respond. You just don't know
> the answer. Isn't that enough for you?
>
> perseus
>
>[/color]

#7 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:43 -0400, "Victor Bazarov"
<v.Abazarov@attAbi.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...[color=green]
>> [...]
>> Victor,
>>
>> You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.
>> Obviously, you do not know the answer to my question.
>> So, stop feeling compelled to respond. You just don't know
>> the answer. Isn't that enough for you?[/color]
>
>It's just become enough for me. And probably for many others
>in this newsgroup. Don't be surprised when _all_ your posts
>will go unanswered.[/color]

Of course, Victor. Why should they be answered by people who do not
know the answer? I hope they are not. I agree.

perseus

#8 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

"Pete" <s366888@student.uq.edu.au> wrote...[color=blue]
> no hey keep going.....I haven't seen such pointless online bitch fighting
> since I was 15...[/color]

I see you haven't much progressed since then...
[color=blue]
> just be careful now that no one accidentally posts something on topic in
> this thread.... [...][/color]

#9 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:01:34 -0400, perseus wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:52:33 -0400, "Victor Bazarov"
> <v.Abazarov@attAbi.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...[color=darkred]
>>> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
>>> in particular Mr. David White,
>>> is being absolutely ridiculous. [...]
>>> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
>>> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
>>> messages. YOU do that, not me![/color]
>>
>>Oh, really? So, this your message qualifies as necessary and
>>non-trivial? And if you are not told that your posting about
>>a product installation is irrelevant in a non-product newsgroup,
>>how would you know to stop posting irrelevant messages? Where
>>did _you_ learn logic?[/color]
>
> Victor,
>
> You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.
> Obviously, you do not know the answer to my question.
> So, stop feeling compelled to respond. You just don't know
> the answer. Isn't that enough for you?[/color]

Keep up with that attitude and you're less likely to get help later if you
post a question that is on topic in the group.

You were offered advice ("look somewhere else, because this isn't the
place to get your question answered") and start complaining when it wasn't
the answer you wanted.

And your post was the one that was unnessesary,
because if you had done your homework (reading the faq) before posting you
would have known wou'd get no answer.

If you go into a grocery store to buy a hammer, and they tell you to go to
the hardware store, do you complain?

Atleast it appears that you caps-lock keys has become unstuck.

regards
NPV

#10 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:06:19 +0200, Karl Heinz Buchegger
<kbuchegg@gascad.at> wrote:
[color=blue]
>From: Karl Heinz Buchegger <kbuchegg@gascad.at>
>Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
>Subject: Re: What a Funny Goup! I Asked a Question About Boost (C++ Filesystem
> Interface) & All I Got Is: My Question Is Irrelevant!
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>
>perseus wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
>> in particular Mr. David White,
>> is being absolutely ridiculous.[/color]
>
>The only one reidiculous is you.
>We already told you, that this group is about Standard C++
>as defined by the ISO/ANSI standards document.
>[color=green]
>> Obviously, most of you up here
>> behave like the owners of the C++ language.[/color]
>
>No. But we know whats written in the standards document.
>[color=green]
>> A C++ interface
>> installation IS ABOUT THE C++ LANGUAGE![/color]
>
>How can an installation be about a language.
>A language is an abstract thing. Defined by some rules.
>A product is an instantiation of those rules, in your case
>the boost libraries. Your problem is with installing those
>libraries, that is: making them usable in your system with your
>particular compiler.
>
>Installing a product can never be a language problem.
>[color=green]
>> The language
>> does not possess the ability to handle even simple file directory
>> manipulation.
>> Those wise people that created it did not take care of it.[/color]
>
>They did. But they decided to leave it out. They tried to leave
>everything out, what is related to a specific operating system
>and/or hardware. For the very same reason you will not find any
>functions to control eg. a screen, a keyboard, device serial numbers,
>etc. in standard C++.
>[color=green]
>> So, BOOST
>> is a portable interface that contains a FILESYSTEM for handling
>> files and directories in the C++ LANGUAGE![/color]
>
>But Boost is just one library. There are hundreds other libraries out
>there which do the same thing. None of them (including boost) is
>part of Standard C++. That's why they are not topical in this group.
>[color=green]
>> Now, where are you coming from telling me that a question about the
>> installation of such an important interface does not belong to this
>> group?[/color]
>
>Because it doesn't. If you have problems in installing a specific
>prodct, then the people maintaining that product are responsible for
>that.
>[color=green]
>> Where did you learn logic? In a mental institution?[/color]
>
>Where did YOU learn logic? You intermix the terms 'language', 'product'
>and 'installation' as it pleases you.
>[color=green]
>> Also, you are wasting a lot of bandwidth with your childish responses
>> about relevance or irrelevance.[/color]
>
>The only one wasting bandwith is you. You already have been told to
>be off-topic. If I remember correctly you have even been told the
>locations of the FAQ to inform yourself of what's on topic and what is not.
>[color=green]
>> Do you tell CNN to stop bothering you
>> with its commercials every 3 minutes? Sure you do, pseudo-elitists!
>> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
>> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
>> messages. YOU do that, not me![/color]
>
>Please. Stop beeing childish. The boost people maintain a message board
>where they are more then happy to help you sorting out your problems
>with yout installation. You already have been told that. There your
>question IS on topic.
>
>--
>Karl Heinz Buchegger
>kbuchegg@gascad.at[/color]

Dear Karl Heinz Buchegger:

Why do you waste bandwidth with your shows of ignorance?
Since you don't know the answer to my question, why don't you
just move on to the next message? Is it absolutely necessary
for you to send me messages that amount to nothing?
In any case, give my best regards to ... the sensible Austrians.

perseus

#11 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:12:16 GMT, "Nils Petter Vaskinn"
<no@spam.for.me.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:01:34 -0400, perseus wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:52:33 -0400, "Victor Bazarov"
>> <v.Abazarov@attAbi.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote...
>>>> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
>>>> in particular Mr. David White,
>>>> is being absolutely ridiculous. [...]
>>>> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
>>>> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
>>>> messages. YOU do that, not me!
>>>
>>>Oh, really? So, this your message qualifies as necessary and
>>>non-trivial? And if you are not told that your posting about
>>>a product installation is irrelevant in a non-product newsgroup,
>>>how would you know to stop posting irrelevant messages? Where
>>>did _you_ learn logic?[/color]
>>
>> Victor,
>>
>> You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.
>> Obviously, you do not know the answer to my question.
>> So, stop feeling compelled to respond. You just don't know
>> the answer. Isn't that enough for you?[/color]
>
>Keep up with that attitude and you're less likely to get help later if you
>post a question that is on topic in the group.
>
>You were offered advice ("look somewhere else, because this isn't the
>place to get your question answered") and start complaining when it wasn't
>the answer you wanted.
>
>And your post was the one that was unnessesary,
>because if you had done your homework (reading the faq) before posting you
>would have known wou'd get no answer.
>
>
>If you go into a grocery store to buy a hammer, and they tell you to go to
>the hardware store, do you complain?
>
>Atleast it appears that you caps-lock keys has become unstuck.
>
>
>regards
>NPV[/color]

Here is another one that definitely wants me to know that he does not
know the answer to my question.
thank you for nothing NVP.

perseus

#12 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:43:42 -0400
perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
> in particular Mr. David White,
> is being absolutely ridiculous. Obviously, most of you up here
> behave like the owners of the C++ language. A C++ interface
> installation IS ABOUT THE C++ LANGUAGE! The language
> does not possess the ability to handle even simple file directory
> manipulation.
> Those wise people that created it did not take care of it. So, BOOST
> is a portable interface that contains a FILESYSTEM for handling
> files and directories in the C++ LANGUAGE!
> Now, where are you coming from telling me that a question about the
> installation of such an important interface does not belong to this
> group? Where did you learn logic? In a mental institution?
> Also, you are wasting a lot of bandwidth with your childish responses
> about relevance or irrelevance. Do you tell CNN to stop bothering you
> with its commercials every 3 minutes? Sure you do, pseudo-elitists!
> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
> messages. YOU do that, not me![/color]

Please get it into your head: This is a newsgroup for Standard C++.
Yes standard C++ lack[1] some things and that is why there are lots and
lots of packages/libraries like boost. Questions regarding Boost is OT
here and so is questions about wxWindows, ACE, dbconnect, ptypes,
crypto++, botan, V, Fox, GTK, FLTK, Boehm and so on. If this group
should answer ALL C++ related question, there would be 1000 post pr day.
So please understand that boost is OT!

Now, I think it is about time we stop feeding the troll.....

socketd

[1] Things like GUI-lib's, database access and others should NOT be in
standard C++

#13 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:25:06 +0200, Karl Heinz Buchegger
<kbuchegg@gascad.at> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
>perseus wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> Why do you waste bandwidth with your shows of ignorance?[/color]
>
>You are funny !
>[color=green]
>> Since you don't know the answer to my question, why don't you
>> just move on to the next message?[/color]
>
>How do you know that I don't know the answer? I'm pretty sure
>that most of the regulars could help you. But not in this group.
>[color=green]
>> Is it absolutely necessary
>> for you to send me messages that amount to nothing?[/color]
>
>They might actually teach you something :-)
>[color=green]
>> In any case, give my best regards to ... the sensible Austrians.[/color]
>
>Thank you. I will :-)[/color]

Hahahaha! They can help me, but not in this goup? Hahahaha!
You made me laugh! Let's go to the salami.cheese.cpp group to
get help! Hahahaha!

#14 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:27:41 GMT, "Nils Petter Vaskinn"
<no@spam.for.me.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:17:26 -0400, perseus wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> Here is another one that definitely wants me to know that he does not
>> know the answer to my question.
>> thank you for nothing NVP.[/color]
>
>You're welcome.
>
>You are correct I do not know the answer to you question, but if I did I
>wouldn't give it to you.
>
>You have just confirmed that you care nothing for what the people in this
>group thinks is acceptable to post.
>
>You post a question and complain loudly when people tell you how to get an
>answer. If you decide to follow that advice I suggest you adjust your
>attitude before you ask the boost people for help, unless you want them to
>ignore your request for help.
>I wouldn't be surprised if there are people that read this group AND the
>boost mailinglist that will choose not to help you if you should choose to
>ask your question in the appropriate forum.
>
>
>NPV[/color]

Thank you, NVP. You keep confirming my original impression
of you: huge contributions of nothingness.

perseus

#15 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:37:41 +0200, Socketd <db@NO_SPAM_traceroute.dk>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Please get it into your head: This is a newsgroup for Standard C++.
>Yes standard C++ lack[1] some things and that is why there are lots and
>lots of packages/libraries like boost. Questions regarding Boost is OT
>here and so is questions about wxWindows, ACE, dbconnect, ptypes,
>crypto++, botan, V, Fox, GTK, FLTK, Boehm and so on. If this group
>should answer ALL C++ related question, there would be 1000 post pr day.
>So please understand that boost is OT!
>
>Now, I think it is about time we stop feeding the troll.....
>
>socketd
>
>[1] Things like GUI-lib's, database access and others should NOT be in
>standard C++[/color]

socketd:

You must really be proud of your message.
Such an eloquent way of showing your ignorance and irrelevance.
Thank you for nothing.

perseus

#16 July 19th, 2005, 05:18 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:31:29 +0200, Karl Heinz Buchegger
<kbuchegg@gascad.at> wrote:
[color=blue]
>He, he.
>I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
>before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
>Still counting.
>
>--
>Karl Heinz Buchegger
>kbuchegg@gascad.at[/color]

Karl Hainz Buchegger:

I am still counting how many stupid messages you send
about not knowing the answer to my question. Keep on sending them,
baby.

perseus

#17 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

This is a troll.

</dib>
John Dibling
Witty banter omitted for your protection

#18 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:31:29 +0200, Karl Heinz Buchegger wrote:
[color=blue]
> He, he.
> I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
> before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
> Still counting.[/color]

Well he may have been silently plonked without us knowing, but I won't
plonk him yet, the thread is kind of amusing.

But I've given up on educating him.

What did you bet?

regards
NPV

#19 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

#include<perseus.loser.h>

You know perseus to begin with I actually almost sympathised with you....
now it's just plain obvious that you are an obsessive wanker with nothing to
do with your time other than try to tell other people how ignorant they are.

If the people here are so ignorant and irrelevant as you say,
and I am assuming you are comparing these people to yourself,
how come you had to ask the question in the first place?

I mean, you keep complaining that no one will answer your question, yet, you
don't know the answer yourself.

Has that occured to anyone else?

"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message
news:mhuhjvsie8oqes8967uaptj35detjb3gon@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:37:41 +0200, Socketd <db@NO_SPAM_traceroute.dk>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Please get it into your head: This is a newsgroup for Standard C++.
> >Yes standard C++ lack[1] some things and that is why there are lots and
> >lots of packages/libraries like boost. Questions regarding Boost is OT
> >here and so is questions about wxWindows, ACE, dbconnect, ptypes,
> >crypto++, botan, V, Fox, GTK, FLTK, Boehm and so on. If this group
> >should answer ALL C++ related question, there would be 1000 post pr day.
> >So please understand that boost is OT!
> >
> >Now, I think it is about time we stop feeding the troll.....
> >
> >socketd
> >
> >[1] Things like GUI-lib's, database access and others should NOT be in
> >standard C++[/color]
>
> socketd:
>
> You must really be proud of your message.
> Such an eloquent way of showing your ignorance and irrelevance.
> Thank you for nothing.
>
> perseus[/color]

#20 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

Nils Petter Vaskinn wrote:[color=blue]
>
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:31:29 +0200, Karl Heinz Buchegger wrote:
>[color=green]
> > He, he.
> > I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
> > before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
> > Still counting.[/color]
>
> Well he may have been silently plonked without us knowing, but I won't
> plonk him yet, the thread is kind of amusing.
>
> But I've given up on educating him.
>
> What did you bet?[/color]

A beer for 13 messages.

5 messages have arrived 'till the bet.
Still counting.

--
Karl Heinz Buchegger
kbuchegg@gascad.at

#21 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:51:01 GMT, "Nils Petter Vaskinn"
<no@spam.for.me.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> He, he.
>> I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
>> before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
>> Still counting.[/color]
>
>Well he may have been silently plonked without us knowing, but I won't
>plonk him yet, the thread is kind of amusing.
>
>But I've given up on educating him.
>
>What did you bet?
>
>regards
>NPV[/color]

NVP,

What a stupid and uneducated Austrian.
He has never learned how to communicate with other people.
He tries to be ironic too! Such a luxury for such an idiot.

pereus

#22 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 01:03:11 +1000, "Pete" <s366888@student.uq.edu.au>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>#include<perseus.loser.h>
>
>You know perseus to begin with I actually almost sympathised with you....
>now it's just plain obvious that you are an obsessive wanker with nothing to
>do with your time other than try to tell other people how ignorant they are.
>
>If the people here are so ignorant and irrelevant as you say,
>and I am assuming you are comparing these people to yourself,
>how come you had to ask the question in the first place?
>
>I mean, you keep complaining that no one will answer your question, yet, you
>don't know the answer yourself.
>
>Has that occured to anyone else?
>[/color]

Pete, I am really sorry, but you are also ignorant. I was flooded with
messages telling me that my C++ FileSystem Interface question was
irrelevant up here. I am only telling all these people that since they
don't know the answer to my question, they should SHUT UP
and MOVE ON TO THE NEXT MESSAGE.
THAT HOLDS FOR YOU TOO!

perseus

#23 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

"Karl Heinz Buchegger" <kbuchegg@gascad.at> wrote...[color=blue]
> [..]
> He, he.
> I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
> before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
> Still counting.[/color]

I don't know the contents of your bet, but how do you know
he hasn't been plonked? Does everybody who plonks him have
to indicate that in the newsgroup?

#24 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

>[color=blue]
> Hahahaha! They can help me, but not in this goup? Hahahaha!
> You made me laugh! Let's go to the salami.cheese.cpp group to
> get help! Hahahaha!
>[/color]

You are absurd!
I would likely be able to help you in your quest, but certainly will not now
I have read your posts and how utterly pointless and rude you are.
What is your obsession about wasting bandwidth? It aint really wasting mine,
I found this all quite humorous :o)
Allan

#25 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

Victor Bazarov wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Karl Heinz Buchegger" <kbuchegg@gascad.at> wrote...[color=green]
> > [..]
> > He, he.
> > I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
> > before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
> > Still counting.[/color]
>
> I don't know the contents of your bet, but how do you know
> he hasn't been plonked? Does everybody who plonks him have
> to indicate that in the newsgroup?[/color]

OK. Rephrase.
The bet was on the first visible indication of plonking
in the group. Just talked with my collegous, they agree that
it was ment to be that way.

PS: before anybody asks: Victors message and my reply don't count :-)

--
Karl Heinz Buchegger
kbuchegg@gascad.at

#26 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:30:12 +0100, "Allan Bruce"
<allanmb@TAKEAWAYf2s.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Hahahaha! They can help me, but not in this goup? Hahahaha!
>> You made me laugh! Let's go to the salami.cheese.cpp group to
>> get help! Hahahaha!
>>[/color]
>
>You are absurd!
>I would likely be able to help you in your quest, but certainly will not now
>I have read your posts and how utterly pointless and rude you are.
>What is your obsession about wasting bandwidth? It aint really wasting mine,
>I found this all quite humorous :o)
>Allan
>[/color]
Allan,

Since you can't answer the question, why don't you just SHUT UP?
If you all had done that, there would be only one message: mine.
Is it very hard for you to understand such trivialities? Of course it
is humorous! A bunch of so-called C++ specilaists CANNOT READ THE
FILENAMES of a DIRECTORY! Quite humorous!

perseus

#27 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

"perseus" <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message
news:nv1ijvcotr9rqb34h7c7a6nvmdv8k9kh0i@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:30:12 +0100, "Allan Bruce"
> <allanmb@TAKEAWAYf2s.com> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>
> >> Hahahaha! They can help me, but not in this goup? Hahahaha!
> >> You made me laugh! Let's go to the salami.cheese.cpp group to
> >> get help! Hahahaha!
> >>[/color]
> >
> >You are absurd!
> >I would likely be able to help you in your quest, but certainly will not[/color][/color]
now[color=blue][color=green]
> >I have read your posts and how utterly pointless and rude you are.
> >What is your obsession about wasting bandwidth? It aint really wasting[/color][/color]
mine,[color=blue][color=green]
> >I found this all quite humorous :o)
> >Allan
> >[/color]
> Allan,
>
> Since you can't answer the question, why don't you just SHUT UP?
> If you all had done that, there would be only one message: mine.
> Is it very hard for you to understand such trivialities? Of course it
> is humorous! A bunch of so-called C++ specilaists CANNOT READ THE
> FILENAMES of a DIRECTORY! Quite humorous!
>
> perseus
>[/color]

That is not the case in one bit - this newsgroup is dedicated to helping
people with problems with the c++ standard. I did not see your original
post but I am positive someone (probably most) could indeed help you but
this is not on topic here. I am sure they would have instructed you that
you were off topic and I am sure that at least some of them would have told
you a more appropriate newsgroup to post your answer to.
As for me not knowing, that is possible, if it has anything to do with
Microsoft, I will know but that is the platform I develop for. Not everyone
here develops for MS, infact I guarantee there are some people here that
develop for hardware that you have never heard of.
Allan

#28 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message
news:nv1ijvcotr9rqb34h7c7a6nvmdv8k9kh0i@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:30:12 +0100, "Allan Bruce"
> <allanmb@TAKEAWAYf2s.com> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>
> >> Hahahaha! They can help me, but not in this goup? Hahahaha!
> >> You made me laugh! Let's go to the salami.cheese.cpp group to
> >> get help! Hahahaha!
> >>[/color]
> >
> >You are absurd!
> >I would likely be able to help you in your quest, but certainly will not[/color][/color]
now[color=blue][color=green]
> >I have read your posts and how utterly pointless and rude you are.
> >What is your obsession about wasting bandwidth? It aint really wasting[/color][/color]
mine,[color=blue][color=green]
> >I found this all quite humorous :o)
> >Allan
> >[/color]
> Allan,
>
> Since you can't answer the question, why don't you just SHUT UP?
> If you all had done that, there would be only one message: mine.
> Is it very hard for you to understand such trivialities? Of course it
> is humorous! A bunch of so-called C++ specilaists CANNOT READ THE
> FILENAMES of a DIRECTORY! Quite humorous![/color]

No, it's quite logical. C++ has no directory facilites,
so why should one expect a C++ specialist to know something
that's not part of C++? And *you* lecture *us* about 'logic'.

-Mike

#29 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:39:37 -0700, "Mike Wahler"
<mkwahler@mkwahler.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>No, it's quite logical. C++ has no directory facilites,
>so why should one expect a C++ specialist to know something
>that's not part of C++? And *you* lecture *us* about 'logic'.
>
>-Mike[/color]

Mike,

Logic IS my profession. Your response is idiotic.
C++ specialists should know how to read the filenames of
a directory. A million things are associated with this process.
You might want to change strings in large numbers of files, delete
strings, add strings between words, transfer files, copy files,
unzip files, rename files, etc., etc.
BOOST is a filesystem that allows you to use your current
C++ compiler to manipulale directories. Why don't you familiarize
yourself with BOOST before you start barking at other people?

perseus

#30 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:58:50 -0400
perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:39:37 -0700, "Mike Wahler"
> <mkwahler@mkwahler.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >No, it's quite logical. C++ has no directory facilites,
> >so why should one expect a C++ specialist to know something
> >that's not part of C++? And *you* lecture *us* about 'logic'.[/color]
>[color=green]
> >-Mike[/color]
>
> Mike,
>
> Logic IS my profession. Your response is idiotic.
> C++ specialists should know how to read the filenames of
> a directory.[/color]

Not if they're a C++ specialist on embedded platforms that have no
notion of what files and directories are.

#31 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:13:39 +0100, Matthew Burgess
<ca9mbu@hermes.sunderland.ac.uk> wrote:
[color=blue]
>NNTP-Posting-Host: scotia-m-burgess.sunderland.ac.uk
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws11 (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32)
>Xref: sn-us comp.lang.c++:751584
>
>On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:58:50 -0400
>perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:39:37 -0700, "Mike Wahler"
>> <mkwahler@mkwahler.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >No, it's quite logical. C++ has no directory facilites,
>> >so why should one expect a C++ specialist to know something
>> >that's not part of C++? And *you* lecture *us* about 'logic'.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >-Mike[/color]
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Logic IS my profession. Your response is idiotic.
>> C++ specialists should know how to read the filenames of
>> a directory.[/color]
>
>Not if they're a C++ specialist on embedded platforms that have no
>notion of what files and directories are.[/color]

Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha!

perseus

#32 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message
news:se3ijvsq8fkitj25h1ur2o2bnvh74acmpn@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:39:37 -0700, "Mike Wahler"
> <mkwahler@mkwahler.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >No, it's quite logical. C++ has no directory facilites,
> >so why should one expect a C++ specialist to know something
> >that's not part of C++? And *you* lecture *us* about 'logic'.
> >
> >-Mike[/color]
>
> Mike,
>
> Logic IS my profession.[/color]

Thanks for the chuckle.
[color=blue]
> Your response is idiotic.[/color]

You said that before. But not why.
[color=blue]
> C++ specialists should know how to read the filenames of
> a directory.[/color]

Why? C++ has no directory facilities.
[color=blue]
>A million things are associated with this process.[/color]

Doesn't matter how many things. C++ is not one of them.
I'm citing *facts*, which I can support, to which you
only respond with attacks upon my intelligence. This is
very telling.
[color=blue]
> You might want to change strings in large numbers of files, delete
> strings, add strings between words, transfer files, copy files,
> unzip files, rename files, etc., etc.[/color]

All of those things can be done with standard C++. What
cannot be done is the (necessarily platform-specific)
interfacing with directory structure.
[color=blue]
> BOOST is a filesystem that allows you to use your current
> C++ compiler to manipulale directories.[/color]

I know what 'boost' is and does. It is certainly not a
filesystem. It's a third-party library for use with C++
applications. It supports most C++ implementations. My
'current' compiler may or may not be supported, you
don't know.
[color=blue]
> Why don't you familiarize
> yourself with BOOST[/color]

I know what boost is. I've spent considerable time at
its web site, reading the code as an educational tool.
So far, I haven't had occasion to actually use it.
If I do, I know where to get information about how to
install, configure and use it. And so do you (you've
been told many times, but appear more interested
in arguing).
[color=blue]
>before you start barking at other people?[/color]

What barking? I tried to rationally explain how your
efforts here are pointless. Notice I did not make any
personal attacks upon you, as you've done with everyone
who responds to your messages with accurate answers.

-Mike

#33 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

perseus wrote:
[color=blue]
> You continue using bandwidth with unnecessary messages.[/color]

That's pretty funny, as you felt the need to post a long whiny message
about how badly you were treated with your off-topic message.

*plonk*

Brian Rodenborn

#34 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message news:<fmuhjvkb4ub8bcdp6hllr403pakvn0gv69@4ax.com>. ..[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:31:29 +0200, Karl Heinz Buchegger
> <kbuchegg@gascad.at> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >He, he.
> >I just placed a bet on how many more replies will arrive
> >before he gets plonk-ed the first time.
> >Still counting.
> >
> >--
> >Karl Heinz Buchegger
> >kbuchegg@gascad.at[/color]
>
> Karl Hainz Buchegger:
>
> I am still counting how many stupid messages you send
> about not knowing the answer to my question. Keep on sending them,
> baby.
>
> perseus[/color]

I wasn't going to bite but now I am.

Taking nothing away from many other regular contributors, Karl is one
of the most helpful people in this group.

Look through the history of the group.
Read posts from Karl (and many of the other poeple you are only
failing to offend because they don't care what you think of them).
Notice how helpful and polite they are to people who don't display
your attitude problem.
Consider that regular readers know this about them already.
Consider now how you are presenting yourself.
Hang your head in shame.
Go away and don't come back until you have learnt manners and
humility.

GJD

#35 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

perseus <fanta@fantigo.com> wrote in message news:<uqqhjvclg5341qr522j9adgau8q2807ei1@4ax.com>. ..[color=blue]
> I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
> in particular Mr. David White,
> is being absolutely ridiculous. Obviously, most of you up here
> behave like the owners of the C++ language. A C++ interface
> installation IS ABOUT THE C++ LANGUAGE! The language
> does not possess the ability to handle even simple file directory
> manipulation.
> Those wise people that created it did not take care of it. So, BOOST
> is a portable interface that contains a FILESYSTEM for handling
> files and directories in the C++ LANGUAGE!
> Now, where are you coming from telling me that a question about the
> installation of such an important interface does not belong to this
> group? Where did you learn logic? In a mental institution?
> Also, you are wasting a lot of bandwidth with your childish responses
> about relevance or irrelevance. Do you tell CNN to stop bothering you
> with its commercials every 3 minutes? Sure you do, pseudo-elitists!
> Either answer the question I posed up here, or MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
> MESSAGE! You are flooding the newsgroup with trivial and unnecessary
> messages. YOU do that, not me!
>
> perseus[/color]

Here here!!!
I totally agree with you.
I think we should start a trend, and flood this newsgroups with a
similar posting every time one of these elitists, topic police geek,
(don't have a life), morons post one of there ridiculous topic
relevance message.

The topic police do more harm then good. They make the newsgroups
less enjoyable, less productive, and less interactive.

I've seen questioners kicked around from one newsgroups to another
just because some narrow minded topic police idiots thought a question
was not narrowly focus enough for their particular newsgroups.

If you topic police narrow minded morons want a newsgroups with such a
narrow focus, why don't you just move to the moderated C++ newsgroups?

I think this newsgroups should be preserved for those users who want
to talk about anything RELATED to C++.

#36 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On 12 Aug 2003, foo wrote:
[color=blue]
> I think this newsgroups should be preserved for those users who want
> to talk about anything RELATED to C++.[/color]

Then go to a newsgroup that discusses things that are RELATED to C++.
This newsgroup is for discussion of *STANDARD* C++. Why is that so damn
difficult to understand? There have been a slew of great reasons posted
today that explain why this newsgroup is run the way it is.

Have you ever thought that the reason the posts seem "narrow minded" as
you put it, is because the topic discussed here is in fact a narrow one,
and with good reason? That's the way we want it, and that's why this
newsgroup was created. Why is this so difficult to understand???

<OT>
I haven't been using newsgroups for very long, and I've never had to
killfile anyone. However, this thread, while at first very amusing, is
just getting on my nerves now. Can anyone quickly explain to me how to
PLONK someone in PINE? Thanks...
</OT>

************************************************** ***
Josh Lessard
Master's Student
School of Computer Science
Faculty of Mathematics
University of Waterloo
(519)888-4567 x3400
http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca
************************************************** ***

#37 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On 12 Aug 2003, foo wrote:
[color=blue]
> This is a ridiculous mentality to think that just because a topic is
> not in the C++ standard, that it shouldn't be discuss here.[/color]

Why is it ridiculous to only discuss things which are meant to be
discussed in this newsgroup??? This newsgroup is for discussion of
STANDARD C++ only. That is its purpose...and now instead of reading about
Standard C++, I have to read about people whining about why they can't
post things in this newsgroup which are irrelevant to its topic. THINK
ABOUT IT!!

************************************************** ***
Josh Lessard
Master's Student
School of Computer Science
Faculty of Mathematics
University of Waterloo
(519)888-4567 x3400
http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca
************************************************** ***

#38 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

> This newsgroup is for discussion of *STANDARD* C++.

isn't that what comp.std.c++ is for?

#39 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

"foo" <maisonave@axter.com> wrote in message >[color=blue]
> I see nothing wrong with having a 1000 post per day.
>
> I would rather have one good newsgroups that covered C++ programming
> in general, and be able to interact with all C++ programmers
> regardless of their particular nitch.
>
> As it is now, I have to scan through dozens of newsgroups to be able
> to do that.
>
> There are plenty of times in which I have a problem and I want an
> answer from another C++ programmer, and not a generic programmer.
>
> For example, if I need help developing an STMP class, I would not
> prefer to go to an STMP group and get advise from a generic
> programmer. I would rather get advise from another C++ programmer,
> who would probably give me a solution that is better suited for my
> language.
>
> As it is, I can't ask such a question here, because the topic police
> would jump on me like white on rice.
>
> This is a ridiculous mentality to think that just because a topic is
> not in the C++ standard, that it shouldn't be discuss here.[/color]

I totall agree that we need such a forum. I think it would be a great
help.. Unfortunately, this isn't it. We need someone to set up such a
forum, and to host it on their server for free. But, do you know any one
who wants to volunteer their resources for it?
-Howard

#40 July 19th, 2005, 05:19 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:18:37 -0400, Xenos <dont.spam.me@spamhate.com> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> This newsgroup is for discussion of *STANDARD* C++.[/color]
>
> isn't that what comp.std.c++ is for?[/color]

Nope.

comp.std.c++ is for discussion of the C++ Standard.

comp.lang.c++ is for discussion of Standard C++.

There's a difference.

The first is for things like design rationales for the C++ Standard.

The second is for things like programming techniques and usage of the
libraries in Standard C++.

--
Sam Holden