I have tried this, with Psyco it segfaults, and with Python 2.5 (on
Win) hangs the interpreter, is it possible to improve the situation?

class T(object):
def __getattr__(self, x): dir(self)
#import psyco
#psyco.full()
T().method()

(Probably dir calls __getattr__).

Bye,
bearophile

bearophileHUGS@lycos.com wrote:

I have tried this, with Psyco it segfaults, and with Python 2.5 (on
Win) hangs the interpreter, is it possible to improve the situation?
>
class T(object):
def __getattr__(self, x): dir(self)
#import psyco
#psyco.full()
T().method()
>
(Probably dir calls __getattr__).
>
Bye,
bearophile
>

how to improve the situation depends on what do you expect to get by calling "T().method()"

dir calls __getattr__ with the value '__members__', for example you can write:

def __getattr__(self, x):

if x == '__members__':
return ('method1', 'field1', )

--
Maksim Kasimov

Maksim Kasimov:

how to improve the situation depends on what do you expect to get by calling "T().method()"

You are right, sorry for being cryptic. I think that's a kind of bug of
Python (produced maybe by an infinite loop), so an improvement can be a
traceback or some automatic breaking of that loop. Note that my problem
comes from using Psyco that segfaults in that situation (if you have
Psyco installed you can decomment two lines to see that). I think that
using normal code Python+Psyco don't have to segfault, but I know this
is tricky situation, so if no simple "solutions" can be found, then
it's not a important thing and it can be ignored.

Bye,
bearophile

On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:05 -0800, bearophileHUGS@lycos.com
<bearophileHUGS@lycos.comwrote:

Maksim Kasimov:

>
You are right, sorry for being cryptic. I think that's a kind of bug of
Python (produced maybe by an infinite loop), so an improvement can be a
traceback or some automatic breaking of that loop. Note that my problem
comes from using Psyco that segfaults in that situation (if you have
Psyco installed you can decomment two lines to see that). I think that
using normal code Python+Psyco don't have to segfault, but I know this
is tricky situation, so if no simple "solutions" can be found, then
it's not a important thing and it can be ignored.
>

What I find most interesting is that you don't crash out because of
hitting the recursion limit. My brief testing shows something odd
going on - when the stack depth gets to almost 1000 (the recursion
limit on my system) it knocks some stuff off the stack and the stack
limit never gets to the limit. Some sort of built in tail recursion?

On 12/28/06, Chris Mellon <arkanes@gmail.comwrote:

On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:05 -0800, bearophileHUGS@lycos.com
<bearophileHUGS@lycos.comwrote:

>
What I find most interesting is that you don't crash out because of
hitting the recursion limit. My brief testing shows something odd
going on - when the stack depth gets to almost 1000 (the recursion
limit on my system) it knocks some stuff off the stack and the stack
limit never gets to the limit. Some sort of built in tail recursion?
>

Nothing so clever. dir() eats and ignores all exceptions, so when you
hit the recursion limit it eats the RecursionLimitExceeded exception
and continues merrily along the way. This is probably not good
behavior...

class Foo:
def __getattr__(self, attr):
raise SystemExit, "Don't call me, again, ever"

f = Foo()
f.method() #dies correctly
dir(f) #continues happily

bearophileHUGS@lycos.com wrote:

Maksim Kasimov:

>
You are right, sorry for being cryptic. I think that's a kind of bug of
Python (produced maybe by an infinite loop), so an improvement can be a
traceback or some automatic breaking of that loop. Note that my problem
comes from using Psyco that segfaults in that situation (if you have
Psyco installed you can decomment two lines to see that). I think that
using normal code Python+Psyco don't have to segfault, but I know this
is tricky situation, so if no simple "solutions" can be found, then
it's not a important thing and it can be ignored.
>
Bye,
bearophile
>

it is neither a bug of python neither it comes from using Psyco,
the problem is here:
def __getattr__(self, x): dir(self)

the "__getattr__" method calls "dir",
but then "dir" calls "__getattr__" method of the object (self) - it makes endless loop


(see the code in my previous message)


--
Maksim Kasimov

Chris Mellon wrote:

>
Nothing so clever. dir() eats and ignores all exceptions, so when you
hit the recursion limit it eats the RecursionLimitExceeded exception
and continues merrily along the way. This is probably not good
behavior...
>
class Foo:
def __getattr__(self, attr):
raise SystemExit, "Don't call me, again, ever"
>
f = Foo()
f.method() #dies correctly
dir(f) #continues happily

can't understand - what kind of problem you tried to fix in that way?
if __getattr__ just raise some exception, it needless to define it at all.

--
Maksim Kasimov

At Thursday 28/12/2006 14:01, Maksim Kasimov wrote:

>
>can't understand - what kind of problem you tried to fix in that way?
>if __getattr__ just raise some exception, it needless to define it at all.

The problem is, dir() blindly eats *all* exceptions, including the
RecursionLimitExceeded on the original post, this SystemExit,
KeyboardInterrupt, etc. It shouldn't.
Perhaps this example (esencially the same thing) is a bit more clear:

import sys
class Foo:
def __getattr__(self, attr):
print "About to exit program"
sys.exit(1)

f = Foo()
dir(f)
print "You should not see this line"


--
Gabriel Genellina
Softlab SRL






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