In what application does one write all these ASP programs? NOTEPAD?

All the examples of code I see are all just text. Is there not an IDE
interface, such as what VB or Visual Foxpro has for designing the web pages
layouts,adn adding all the fuinctionality into the command buttons? Or does
one just open up a text editor and bang away? It seems like a TON of work.

I that what ASP.net is... an IDE for ASP development? I just don't see what
all the fuss is about, but I am curious.


I guess I've gotta get into the idea of having my users run my apps through
a web browser, instead of installing the (VB or Foxpro) app on each
computer.


I would love to see a sample ASP app that would let the user enter the specs
for a circular bolt hole pattern, and then display the hole corrdinates in a
grid (i guess that would be a "table", not a grid)

asp ide= visual studio 6
for asp.net there is an ide - it is called visual basic -it is the same IDE
that visual basic uses . or get the free web matrix
http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default...dex=4&tabId=46



"Matt Slay" <mattslay@jordanmachine.com> wrote in message
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> In what application does one write all these ASP programs? NOTEPAD?
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> a web browser, instead of installing the (VB or Foxpro) app on each
> computer.
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> for a circular bolt hole pattern, and then display the hole corrdinates in[/color]
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> In what application does one write all these ASP programs? NOTEPAD?

I use Visual Studio.NET 2003. When building web pages, it's not a complete
IDE like you would expect for VB or VC++; there are little wizards and
toolboxes and publishing tools and other crap, but I don't use them at all.
I like the Server Explorer, which lets me take a look at database objects
without having to open a separate Query Analyzer (I still don't trust the
SourceSafe integration, nor do I attempt to *modify* database objects from
the GUI). The new multiple document interface is very usable (unlike
Office, which is getting worse and worse in that regard). But mainly, I use
Visual Studio because it has intellisense and color coding, and you can turn
off most of its "helpful" auto-correction of ASP/HTML code.

And because I'm used to it.

There are plenty of alternatives. HomeSite and DreamWeaver are mentioned a
lot. I had problems with early versions of HomeSite (and stuck with Notepad
and TextPad for years), and haven't had the need or desire to try it again.
And I really don't like the way DreamWeaver bloats the code, it's almost as
bad as FrontPage.

But of course, to each his/her own. I don't think anybody should tell you
which editor to use; you should try them out on your own and see which one
makes most sense.

Let's not have another "my editor can beat up your editor" debate though,
okay everyone?

--
Aaron Bertrand
SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/

I can't speak for anyone else but, I just use Notepad.

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)


Matt Slay <mattslay@jordanmachine.com> wrote in message
news:O8SwWqUuDHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> In what application does one write all these ASP programs? NOTEPAD?
>
> All the examples of code I see are all just text. Is there not an IDE
> interface, such as what VB or Visual Foxpro has for designing the web[/color]
pages[color=blue]
> layouts,adn adding all the fuinctionality into the command buttons? Or[/color]
does[color=blue]
> one just open up a text editor and bang away? It seems like a TON of[/color]
work.[color=blue]
>
> I that what ASP.net is... an IDE for ASP development? I just don't see[/color]
what[color=blue]
> all the fuss is about, but I am curious.
>
>
> I guess I've gotta get into the idea of having my users run my apps[/color]
through[color=blue]
> a web browser, instead of installing the (VB or Foxpro) app on each
> computer.
>
>
> I would love to see a sample ASP app that would let the user enter the[/color]
specs[color=blue]
> for a circular bolt hole pattern, and then display the hole corrdinates in[/color]
a[color=blue]
> grid (i guess that would be a "table", not a grid)
>
>
>
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>[/color]

Been very happy with Homesite. Use version 4 or later. You can go to
Macromedia.com and download a trial version for free.


"Matt Slay" <mattslay@jordanmachine.com> wrote in message
news:O8SwWqUuDHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> In what application does one write all these ASP programs? NOTEPAD?
>
> All the examples of code I see are all just text. Is there not an IDE
> interface, such as what VB or Visual Foxpro has for designing the web[/color]
pages[color=blue]
> layouts,adn adding all the fuinctionality into the command buttons? Or[/color]
does[color=blue]
> one just open up a text editor and bang away? It seems like a TON of[/color]
work.[color=blue]
>
> I that what ASP.net is... an IDE for ASP development? I just don't see[/color]
what[color=blue]
> all the fuss is about, but I am curious.
>
>
> I guess I've gotta get into the idea of having my users run my apps[/color]
through[color=blue]
> a web browser, instead of installing the (VB or Foxpro) app on each
> computer.
>
>
> I would love to see a sample ASP app that would let the user enter the[/color]
specs[color=blue]
> for a circular bolt hole pattern, and then display the hole corrdinates in[/color]
a[color=blue]
> grid (i guess that would be a "table", not a grid)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

edit.com works fine for me.

Ray at home

"Steven Burn" <nobody@PVT_it-mate.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I can't speak for anyone else but, I just use Notepad.
>
>[/color]

Hi,

I use generally Visual Studio 6.0. But there is another software that's is very good. I have used it for a long time and most of all its free. It supports color-syntax, and you can do lots of programming in there starting from Java to Perl to anything else.

You can download it free from :-
http://www.editplus.com

Regards,
Bhaskardeep Khaund

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:07:44 -0600, "Matt Slay"
<mattslay@jordanmachine.com> wrote:
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>In what application does one write all these ASP programs? NOTEPAD?[/color]

At times, yes.
[color=blue]
>All the examples of code I see are all just text.[/color]

Well, that's all it is. In any language actually. :)
[color=blue]
>Is there not an IDE
>interface, such as what VB or Visual Foxpro has for designing the web pages
>layouts,adn adding all the fuinctionality into the command buttons? Or does
>one just open up a text editor and bang away? It seems like a TON of work.[/color]

You want VisualStudio. Get the .NET version, since you'll move that
way anyway. It's the new generation of the VB and VFP IDE's.
[color=blue]
>I that what ASP.net is... an IDE for ASP development? I just don't see what
>all the fuss is about, but I am curious.[/color]

Curious is good. Curious enough to actually investigate and learn is
better. Start at Microsoft.com.
[color=blue]
>I guess I've gotta get into the idea of having my users run my apps through
>a web browser, instead of installing the (VB or Foxpro) app on each
>computer.[/color]

Wave of the future, my boy. :)
[color=blue]
>I would love to see a sample ASP app that would let the user enter the specs
>for a circular bolt hole pattern, and then display the hole corrdinates in a
>grid (i guess that would be a "table", not a grid)[/color]

Grids exist in ASP.NET. In fact, that's the natural extension of your
current experience. And a different newsgroup. Try the .NET groups,
and gotdotnet.com.

Jeff

Real programmers use COPY CON... :)

Jeff

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 00:38:18 -0500, "Ray at <%=sLocation%>"
<myfirstname at lane 34 . komm> wrote:
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>edit.com works fine for me.
>
>Ray at home
>
>"Steven Burn" <nobody@PVT_it-mate.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:eLHM7KVuDHA.1876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I can't speak for anyone else but, I just use Notepad.
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

What about EDLIN? An old forgotten "friend".


"Jeff Cochran" <jcochran.nospam@naplesgov.com> wrote in message
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> Real programmers use COPY CON... :)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 00:38:18 -0500, "Ray at <%=sLocation%>"
> <myfirstname at lane 34 . komm> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >edit.com works fine for me.
> >
> >Ray at home
> >
> >"Steven Burn" <nobody@PVT_it-mate.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:eLHM7KVuDHA.1876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >> I can't speak for anyone else but, I just use Notepad.
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >[/color]
>[/color]

> I guess I've gotta get into the idea of having my users run my apps
through[color=blue]
> a web browser, instead of installing the (VB or Foxpro) app on each
> computer.[/color]

I would recommend jumping directly into ASP.NET - especially if you already
have VB experience.

I joke about these kinds of utilities, but every once in a while I end
up having to use them. Kinda makes me valuable since nobody else here
remembers there was anything prior to Windows 95...

Jeff

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:19:30 -0500, "Michel Thiffault"
<mtifo@h.ot_m.ai_l.com> wrote:
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>What about EDLIN? An old forgotten "friend".
>
>
>"Jeff Cochran" <jcochran.nospam@naplesgov.com> wrote in message
>news:3fd2e19b.3070875615@msnews.microsoft.com.. .[color=green]
>> Real programmers use COPY CON... :)
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 00:38:18 -0500, "Ray at <%=sLocation%>"
>> <myfirstname at lane 34 . komm> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >edit.com works fine for me.
>> >
>> >Ray at home
>> >
>> >"Steven Burn" <nobody@PVT_it-mate.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:eLHM7KVuDHA.1876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> I can't speak for anyone else but, I just use Notepad.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]