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Old April 9th, 2006, 12:45 AM
Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com
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Hello all,
I am writing a hands on test in MS acess 2003 , and I need to disable
the user access tothe help file. HOw do I do that? I tryed to install
acess adn diselecte the help file but I didn't get a option to do that?
Is that any file I can delete from the computer ?
Thanks
Thai

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Old April 9th, 2006, 05:55 AM
Tom van Stiphout
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On 8 Apr 2006 16:31:24 -0700, Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com wrote:

You could write an AutoKeys macro and intercept F1.
-Tom.

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>Hello all,
>I am writing a hands on test in MS acess 2003 , and I need to disable
>the user access tothe help file. HOw do I do that? I tryed to install
>acess adn diselecte the help file but I didn't get a option to do that?
>Is that any file I can delete from the computer ?
>Thanks
>Thai[/color]

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Old April 9th, 2006, 07:55 AM
Larry Linson
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<Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
> I am writing a hands on test in MS acess 2003 , and I need to disable
> the user access tothe help file. HOw do I do that? I tryed to install
> acess adn diselecte the help file but I didn't get a option to do that?
> Is that any file I can delete from the computer ?[/color]

Why? In the real world of Access development, the users will be able to
access a Help file, so why not let them do so now?

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP


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Old April 9th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Bob Quintal
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"Larry Linson" <bouncer@localhost.not> wrote in
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>
> <Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144539084.354586.77720@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...[color=green]
>> Hello all,
>> I am writing a hands on test in MS acess 2003 , and I need to
>> disable the user access tothe help file. HOw do I do that? I
>> tryed to install acess adn diselecte the help file but I
>> didn't get a option to do that? Is that any file I can delete
>> from the computer ?[/color]
>
> Why? In the real world of Access development, the users will
> be able to access a Help file, so why not let them do so now?
>
> Larry Linson
> Microsoft Access MVP[/color]

He doesn't want to confuse his students with the ambiguous
and/or erroneous contents thereof /:-0


Actually, I have the chms for ACC97 available on this ACC2K2
install because the old one is much better.
--
Bob Quintal

PA is y I've altered my email address.
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Old April 10th, 2006, 02:45 AM
Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com
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Is not for studentes, I ma hiring some people to do some development in
access and I need to know how much they know abou the program

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Old April 10th, 2006, 03:19 AM
Tim Marshall
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Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Is not for studentes, I ma hiring some people to do some development in
> access and I need to know how much they know abou the program[/color]

That's a pretty incredibly stupid way to test their abilities.

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Old April 10th, 2006, 03:55 AM
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:36:29 -0230, Tim Marshall
<TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote:

Not in all situations.
If you have to look up in the help file for example some basic
Properties and Methods of the Recordset object, that tells me
something about your abilities in that area. It separates the "I can
do this in my sleep" candidates from the "Give me Google and the help
file, and I can probably figure this out".

-Tom.

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>Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com wrote:
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>> Is not for studentes, I ma hiring some people to do some development in
>> access and I need to know how much they know abou the program[/color]
>
>That's a pretty incredibly stupid way to test their abilities.[/color]

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Old April 11th, 2006, 12:35 AM
Bob Quintal
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Thaisrgomes@yahoo.com wrote in
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> Is not for studentes, I ma hiring some people to do some
> development in access and I need to know how much they know
> abou the program
>[/color]
An interview and a two hour practical demonstration of building
a demonstration application would probably suffice. The help
files are of very little help in debugging an application,, the
help files do not prevent or allow a programmer to use a(ny)
logical naming convention, etc. and proper indentation,
comments, etc. Those are far more important in my opinion than
theoretical questions about the proper sequence of parameters
for the instr() function, etc.

As to the two hour limit, last week my manager came to me with a
request for an estimate to build a database to manage supplier
performance ratings. He askid if I could generate the estimate
the number of man-weeks to build the app for a staff meeting in
two hours. I supplied the estimate, including a working demo
app., of about 8 man-weeks. It was accepted on the spot.

--
Bob Quintal

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Old April 11th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Tim Marshall
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Tom van Stiphout wrote:
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> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:36:29 -0230, Tim Marshall
> <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote:
>
> Not in all situations.
> If you have to look up in the help file for example some basic
> Properties and Methods of the Recordset object, that tells me
> something about your abilities in that area.[/color]

Had to resend this - hopefully it stays in the thread!

I guess that could justify it... 8) But in my mind, only if you are
looking both for developers who do a specific method and do it your (the
interviewer's) way.

I see lots of code here by people who are doing things a bit differently
from me but ultimately we are doing the same thing. I never use
dbengine, for example, but I see lots of examples here where it's used
do do things that I do a different way.

Nope, even with the awful help files post-A97, for pretty standard
stuff, I sometimes review what I'm doing to make sure I'm getting the
arguments right or whatever. OTOH, there's lots more I do just by the
seat of my pants or with the object browser and/or the intelli-sense.
But again, if faced with different methods, I might want to check to be
sure. here's a quick example I just thought of:

I do mostly work with Oracle and PTQs. The DAO openrecordset method
must be used with a queryobject, not the database object and as you
know, the syntax is different. I do these recordsets lots and lots, but
when I'm occasionally working with jet, I can save myself the extra
steps needed to create even a temporary PTQ dao.querydef by just opening
the recordset against the currentdb and include the SQL. In such a
situation, if I hadn't done this in Jet for a long time, I'd check help.
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> It separates the "I can
> do this in my sleep" candidates from the "Give me Google and the help
> file, and I can probably figure this out".[/color]

If there's no time limit involved.

Anyway, my opinion, I'd never do what the OP is contemplating. 8)

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