does anyone know of a css vertical menu like the one at projectseven?

http://projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=pmm

Or

http://projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=tmm

I did google but not alot of found. I did find this article at A List
apart but could not find the previous tutorial.

http://www.alistapart.com/stories/domtricks2/

thanks,
charlie

charlie wrote:
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> does anyone know of a css vertical menu like the one at projectseven?
>
> http://projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=pmm[/color]

Why not just copy the one that is on the page?
http://projectseven.com/products/men...s/vertical.htm

That said, consider these types of menus are hard to use for mouse
people with motor skill deficiencies, and for keyboard users, a pain in
the arse.

I am neither of those, and still can't stand 'em.

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On 2006-03-07 16:26:11 -0500, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.mous@example.invalid> said:
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> charlie wrote:
>[color=green]
>> does anyone know of a css vertical menu like the one at projectseven?
>>
>> http://projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=pmm[/color]
>
> Why not just copy the one that is on the page?
> http://projectseven.com/products/men...s/vertical.htm
>
> That said, consider these types of menus are hard to use for mouse
> people with motor skill deficiencies, and for keyboard users, a pain in
> the arse.
>
> I am neither of those, and still can't stand 'em.[/color]

I would never rip them off! I can't imagine that others haven't
written something similar and for less than $90.00!

I never thought about people with motor skills or keyboard users,
thanks for pointing that out. What menu would you suggest? I need a
vertical menu.

charlie

charlie wrote:
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> On 2006-03-07 16:26:11 -0500, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> said:
>[color=green]
>> charlie wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> does anyone know of a css vertical menu like the one at
>>> projectseven?
>>>
>>> http://projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=pmm[/color]
>>
>> Why not just copy the one that is on the page?
>> http://projectseven.com/products/men...s/vertical.htm
>>
>> That said, consider these types of menus are hard to use for mouse
>> people with motor skill deficiencies, and for keyboard users, a pain
>> in the arse.
>>
>> I am neither of those, and still can't stand 'em.[/color]
>
> I would never rip them off![/color]

Why not? Everybody else does it! <g> If you see something you like,
examine the code and mimic, with some appropriate changes so it doesn't
look exactly the same, of course.
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> I can't imagine that others haven't written something similar and for
> less than $90.00![/color]

Are you looking for a "code generation program" rather than just a menu
for your site? I did not go much further at the projectseven site; are
they *selling* it? <lol>
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> I never thought about people with motor skills or keyboard users,
> thanks for pointing that out. What menu would you suggest? I need a
> vertical menu.[/color]

I write my own menus. None of them fly out at ya. They are usually less
than a kilobyte of PHP, with a few hundred bytes of CSS.

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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> writes:
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> charlie wrote:[/color]
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>> I never thought about people with motor skills or keyboard users,
>> thanks for pointing that out. What menu would you suggest? I need a
>> vertical menu.[/color]
>
> I write my own menus. None of them fly out at ya. They are usually less
> than a kilobyte of PHP, with a few hundred bytes of CSS.[/color]

I'd be interested in just what is implied by a keyboard-based
menu. Would you point to an example?

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KB1GRM

Haines Brown wrote:
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> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> writes:
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>> charlie wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I never thought about people with motor skills or keyboard users,
>>> thanks for pointing that out. What menu would you suggest? I need
>>> a vertical menu.[/color]
>>
>> I write my own menus. None of them fly out at ya. They are usually
>> less than a kilobyte of PHP, with a few hundred bytes of CSS.[/color]
>
> I'd be interested in just what is implied by a keyboard-based menu.
> Would you point to an example?[/color]

Not 'keyboard-based' but users of keyboards, not mouses (mice?). IOW,
the Tab key will easily and quickly take the visitor to the major nav
links.

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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> writes:
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> Haines Brown wrote:
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>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> writes:
>>[/color]
> Not 'keyboard-based' but users of keyboards, not mouses (mice?).[/color]

Yes, I mis-spoke. Sorry.
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> IOW, the Tab key will easily and quickly take the visitor to the major nav
> links.[/color]

Oh, of course. I thought you meant accessing a menu item directly. In
a situation in which there are a lot of links before you get to the
first menu item, or the menus contain (unfortunately) a large number
of items, it may be easy, but not "quickly" (and in this case that
uses frames, not "easily" either without first clicking on the right
frame with your mouse):

http://www.infoplease.com/countries.html

Is there any way to jump to a menu item? All I can think of is
accellerator keys, but this is likely to interfere with existing
acclerators built into browsers. In the above example, I don't see how
it could be reasonably implemented.

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KB1GRM
ET1(SS) U.S.S. Irex 482

Haines Brown wrote:
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> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>> IOW, the Tab key will easily and quickly take the visitor to the major nav
>> links.[/color]
>
> Oh, of course. I thought you meant accessing a menu item directly. In
> a situation in which there are a lot of links before you get to the
> first menu item, or the menus contain (unfortunately) a large number
> of items, it may be easy, but not "quickly" (and in this case that
> uses frames, not "easily" either without first clicking on the right
> frame with your mouse):
>
> http://www.infoplease.com/countries.html[/color]

Heh, probably not on that page. :-)
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> Is there any way to jump to a menu item? All I can think of is
> accellerator keys, but this is likely to interfere with existing
> acclerators built into browsers. In the above example, I don't see how
> it could be reasonably implemented.[/color]

Neither do I. Looks more like a link farm, doesn't it?

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-Warning: I brake for lawn deer

Haines Brown wrote:[color=blue]
>
> (and in this case that
> uses frames, not "easily" either without first clicking on the right
> frame with your mouse):[/color]

On a PC, try using F6 to navigate between frames, though different
browsers may have different shortcuts.
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> http://www.infoplease.com/countries.html
>
> Is there any way to jump to a menu item?[/color]

In mozilla, use type-ahead-find. I think Opera has something similar.
It's an awesome tool for us keyboard users. :-) Using a combination of
TAF and the tab key, I can get just about anywhere on a page pretty
quickly. Not sure if that would help someone using a screen reader,
though...
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> All I can think of is accellerator keys[/color]

Accesskeys are often more trouble than benefit. Something to keep in
mind, too, is that someone accustomed to keyboard navigation will have
tricks up their sleeve that you probably don't know about.

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