"kchayka" <usenet@c-net.us> wrote in message
news:3aldt0F6cjeurU1@individual.net...[color=blue]
> me wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > Here's the best solution I could come up with, use it in good health.[/color]
>
> Did you come up with this all by yourself?[/color]
Yes, in a manner of speaking.
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> Looks suspiciously like some
> tool-generated crap.[/color]
I used Dreamweaver (albeit an older version) the industry standard for
professional website designers, at least that's what Macromedia says,
possibly you've heard of them, they're the creators of Shockwave, Flash,
Freehand, etc etc etc.
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> > <style type="text/css">
> > <!--[/color]
>
> Cargo cult. Putting an embedded stylesheet within html comments hasn't
> been needed since some version of Netscape 2 (or was it NS1?).[/color]
Possibly, but it still works and it facilitates pasting an entire web page
with styles into a NG post.
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> > .divstretch { border: 1px #0C96C3 solid; float: left; border-color:[/color][/color]
#0C96C3[color=blue][color=green]
> > #0C96C3; left: 30%; top: 20%; clip: rect( ); overflow: auto}[/color]
>
> - What's the point of setting both border shorthand and separate
> border-color when they use the same values?
> - What's the point of setting empty clip property? It's invalid, anyway.
> If you ever validated your code you'd know this right away.[/color]
You may well be right, I'm sure I couldn't say. I concern myself with what
works in IE not with what validates.
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> - Left and top properties have no relevance on non-positioned elements,
> which include floats.[/color]
They do if they relate to the parent, in this case the body (at least in
IE).
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> - Overflow has no relevance without explicit dimensions.[/color]
But there are dimensions, they're a percentage of the body. I used an
overflow setting of auto so IE would only create a vertical scrollbar. IIRC
setting overflow X to auto and overflow Y to none would still be the same
thing, at least in IE.
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> > body { margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;[/color][/color]
margin-left:[color=blue][color=green]
> > 0px}[/color]
>
> Bloatware. margin:0 is all you need.[/color]
Indeed, how many extra kilobytes do you suppose it adds?
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> > <div id="content" style="position:relative; width:70%; height:70%;
> > z-index:2; visibility: visible; left: ; top: " class="divstretch">[/color]
>
> Invalid left/top values, unnecessary visibility property. You've also
> created a big inconsistency between the inline styles and the class
> rules. Is this element supposed to float or be positioned? Or are you
> just hacking away until something seems to come out right in WinIE?[/color]
You got me there, but as you so astutely observed it does work in IE. Thank
you.
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> Besides, inline styles are almost never a good idea. All those
> properties should be part of either the #content or the .divstretch
> rules.[/color]
Possibly, I'm just a simple guy doing the best I can with what I've got.
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> You're creating a maintenance PITA when you put style rules all
> over the place like this.[/color]
That depends on how you define maintainance. We're building websites not
houses. I don't have any trouble determining what styles are applied where.
IMO you omitted two critical points, you failed to prove that what I did
doesn't work in IE (possibly because it does work) and you failed to offer
the OP a working solution.
Signed,
me
