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[b]Hi. I making a program who is don't let the system get down and protect from virus
It's controls a */dll and others files.

So if is posibly the programs run before the system is load
To start before the system is loadnig, you know when show the picture of Windows and the progressbar. By the way if you are using Vista(I use) it dont have picture of Vist it's have just a Progressbar

So if you know something abot that send me
DO YOU WANT TO GET IN MY TEAM
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#251: Feb 27 '08

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Red son you a good men help me and VACE to bulid a new OS and I will help you!Please! Come on!
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VACE What i can do for you?How I can help you to bulid a new OS?Tell me where you get internet



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#253: Feb 27 '08

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VACE What i can do for you?How I can help you to bulid a new OS?Tell me where you get internet



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You posted on this account thinking you were back on the VACE account
HAHAHAHAHA.

I lol'd, alot.

I can build OP with you tho........... i cn code PHP.... surely it make OP???
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OK. I'm back in the team. But if someone thinks this is fun or some try to keeding whit me i will stop. We can't build a new OS. I need to know Assembly. SO maybe we can make a strong team and work to other projects. I'm steal learnig C++ but programming whit 0 and 1 is so hard. Maybe we will need some Expert whit more than 20 yars. The assembly in our country is learnig in the 18 yars old. I like to stady a lot. I like to know how is working every part in the hardware and sftware , but like you can see in our country it dosent have good profesors and school for computers. So i plan to leave my country and go to stydy in Serbia , Slovenia, England or . . . . But i think C++ is easy than VB. The first wrong step in programing i make is than I first start to learn VB , not C++. I ask my pofesor what is better C++ or VB. He said VB is better than C++ and you got all the command like in C++. But when i ask in what is build C++ he said that is build in C++ than all the students realize that profesori is wrong....

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#257: Feb 27 '08

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When I program in assembly I also find it very difficult to program with 1s and 0s. Then I talked with my professor and he said "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't"

He was a wise man.
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I'd just like to clarify a couple of points.
  • There are actually 11 types of people. Those that understand binary, those that don't, and those that are sick of this joke.
  • In my (admittedly quite limited) experience, assembly programming very rarely involves using binary (0's and 1's). You typically deal with instruction codes such as "move" or "shift", and hexadecimal values.
  • VB is almost certainly easier to learn than C++. C++ probably puts more power at your fingertips, though you may be able to achieve the same with VB. But which is better is entirely a personal choice.
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#259: Feb 28 '08

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OK. I'm back in the team. But if someone thinks this is fun or some try to keeding whit me i will stop. We can't build a new OS. I need to know Assembly. SO maybe we can make a strong team and work to other projects. I'm steal learnig C++ but programming whit 0 and 1 is so hard. Maybe we will need some Expert whit more than 20 yars. The assembly in our country is learnig in the 18 yars old. I like to stady a lot. I like to know how is working every part in the hardware and sftware , but like you can see in our country it dosent have good profesors and school for computers. So i plan to leave my country and go to stydy in Serbia , Slovenia, England or . . . . But i think C++ is easy than VB. The first wrong step in programing i make is than I first start to learn VB , not C++. I ask my pofesor what is better C++ or VB. He said VB is better than C++ and you got all the command like in C++. But when i ask in what is build C++ he said that is build in C++ than all the students realize that profesori is wrong....

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False,False,False.Vace how i can help you.tell me.when you stop we all stop.You must continue.Profesor isn't wrong.You are in wrong.You must continue.I will get this assemble.This is now my work.




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#260: Feb 28 '08

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.....This is now my work.




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It certainly is your work that.

Now a reminder, read reply #182 again.
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It certainly is your work that.

Now a reminder, read reply #182 again.

Better yet: Vace should read a book by Andrew Tanenbaum ('andy' or 'AST'), the
author of Minix in his book "Operating Systems, Design and Implementation".
In his book he explains his micro kernel Minix. For starters, Vace might read the
famous fight between Andrew and Linus Torvalds, the latter being a fan of the
monolithic kernel operating systems. A good read.

kind regards,

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Better yet: Vace should read a book by Andrew Tanenbaum ('andy' or 'AST'), the
author of Minix in his book "Operating Systems, Design and Implementation".
In his book he explains his micro kernel Minix. For starters, Vace might read the
famous fight between Andrew and Linus Torvalds, the latter being a fan of the
monolithic kernel operating systems. A good read.

kind regards,

Jos


Send me this book.I want to read this book.
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#263: Feb 29 '08

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Send me this book.I want to read this book.

What keeps you from ordering it or walking to the library? I'm not a bookshop owner. I own a cheese shoppe ;-)

kind regards,

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#264: Feb 29 '08

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You're too modest. It's an emporium :D
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You're too modest. It's an emporium :D

I was raised modest Sir, but I assume you're in your purveyance to negotiate me selling you some cheesy comestibles?

kind regards,

Jos (never mind the Bazouki player ;-)
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#266: Feb 29 '08

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What keeps you from ordering it or walking to the library? I'm not a bookshop owner. I own a cheese shoppe ;-)

kind regards,

Jos

Sure it's not a "coffee shop", like the ones you Dutch people are famous for?

Yarr (no offence to Dutch people, Belgians do crazy things too, just can't think of a comparable one a the moment :D)
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Sure it's not a "coffee shop", like the ones you Dutch people are famous for?

Yarr (no offence to Dutch people, Belgians do crazy things too, just can't think of a comparable one a the moment :D)

The Belgians visit Dutch coffee shops a lot?

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The Belgians visit Dutch coffee shops a lot?

Possibly, I don't know it because I don't need "coffee". Bashing my head against the wall occasionally is enough for me :P

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What keeps you from ordering it or walking to the library? I'm not a bookshop owner. I own a cheese shoppe ;-)

kind regards,

Jos


Why you dont send to me this book.I like to read it.Can you send me this book please?
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#270: Feb 29 '08

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Why you dont send to me this book.I like to read it.Can you send me this book please?

You're seriously asking why someone else won't pay money out of their pocket to ship a book internationally to a person they don't know when you obviously have access to amazon, ebay, etc...?
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Thats the way in our contry. You buy and give to other. Someother buy a book and you copy from him. By the way I'm not bad guy.I'm not like others hacker. If you are frend whit me you will be dead of keeding. I'm fun guy.


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Thats the way in our contry. You buy and give to other. Someother buy a book and you copy from him.

There's nothing wrong with buying a book and letting someone borrow it, but to copy it would, most likely, be illegal. Read the copyright notice at the beginning of most books.
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Thats the way in our contry. You buy and give to other. Someother buy a book and you copy from him. By the way I'm not bad guy.I'm not like others hacker. If you are frend whit me you will be dead of keeding. I'm fun guy.


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Hmm, pretty sure something got lost in translation there - you kill your friends through 'keeding'? I hope that's Macedonian for 'laughter' or something...

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Hmm, pretty sure something got lost in translation there - you kill your friends through 'keeding'? I hope that's Macedonian for 'laughter' or something...

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I suspect it's nothing more unconventional than "kidding" ;)

Let's remember that all posters whose first language is not English are at a disadvantage with all the criss-cross banter. Let's try to be a little understanding, while obviously having fun and kidding around at the same time (end of preach).
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IMHO this is going to be a fruitless conversation. I give books and other presents
to my friends and relatives as well but I don't believe that many people give them
to complete strangers very often. I think Vace is very well capable of buying or
renting or borrowing books himself and I'm not going to give a book to him because
some nickname demands me to do so. I just gave the tip about that book; he
really should read it.

kind regards,

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IMHO this is going to be a fruitless conversation. I give books and other presents
to my friends and relatives as well but I don't believe that many people give them
to complete strangers very often. I think Vace is very well capable of buying or
renting or borrowing books himself and I'm not going to give a book to him because
some nickname demands me to do so. I just gave the tip about that book; he
really should read it.

kind regards,

Jos

Jos,

I demand that you send me a book about cheese. When can this be arranged?
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Thats the way in our contry. You buy and give to other. Someother buy a book and you copy from him. By the way I'm not bad guy.I'm not like others hacker. If you are frend whit me you will be dead of keeding. I'm fun guy.


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You're all right VACE!
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Jos,

I demand that you send me a book about cheese. When can this be arranged?

Sorry Sir, we're not allowed to write about cheese at all overhere Sir, especially
not about red Leicester, Tilsit, Gouda, Caerphilly, Bel Paese, Red Windsor,
Stilton, Edam, Leiden, Ementhal, Gruyere, Norweigan Jarlsburg, Lipta,
Maasdam, Lancashire, White Stilton, Danish Brew, Limburger, Double
Goucester, Cheshire, Dorset Bluveny, Brie, Roquefort, Pol le Veq, Port Salut,
Savoy Aire, Saint Paulin, Carrier de lest, Bres Bleu, Bruson, Camembert nor
Venezualan Beaver Cheese. Better try next door Sir.

kind regards,

Jos ;-)
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Careful guys!
Someone may well end up getting shot - and that would be such a senseless waste of human life.
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I got ath home more than 500 books. I got ilegal book on my computer in PDF format. Thats the way in our country. And why you don't wana borow me. If I'm BACTERY writer i will not infect your book. By the way, why you are afraid of me. I don't kill people. I'm just fun guy. By the way you sure don't know what is meean "BACTERY writer". Ali please tel them . . . And I'm waiting for you Assimbly . . . you didn't send me

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I got ath home more than 500 books. I got ilegal book on my computer in PDF format. Thats the way in our country. And why you don't wana borow me. If I'm BACTERY writer i will not infect your book. By the way, why you are afraid of me. I don't kill people. I'm just fun guy. By the way you sure don't know what is meean "BACTERY writer". Ali please tel them . . . And I'm waiting for you Assimbly . . . you didn't send me

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Let me guess. Is BACTERY the new name for your anti-virus OS? That's a much better name than "MACEDONIA 2007".
But I must tell you that this name does not shed a good light on your new OS, speaking from a microbiological point of view.
Because a "bacterium", like a body cell, is the "food" of a virus. (The classical example: T4 Bacteriophage attacks E.Coli). It's the same as if you want to destroy all pest plant by developing a "fertilizer" for them.

At my work, I always preach all programmers to use long and meaningful names, so let's see what better name you can come up with.
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Let me guess. Is BACTERY the new name for your anti-virus OS? That's a much better name than "MACEDONIA 2007".
But I must tell you that this name does not shed a good light on your new OS, speaking from a microbiological point of view.
Because a "bacterium", like a body cell, is the "food" of a virus. (The classical example: T4 Bacteriophage attacks E.Coli). It's the same as if you want to destroy all pest plant by developing a "fertilizer" for them.

At my work, I always preach all programmers to use long and meaningful names, so let's see what better name you can come up with.

Think were getting a bit tooooo techincal and fussy....its just a name....
Though the best names are preferably 2 sylables and are catchy
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Think were getting a bit tooooo techincal and fussy....its just a name....
Though the best names are preferably 2 sylables and are catchy

Call it "Lema", maybe I'll post a pic of what that is in some time...
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BACTERY isn't the new OS name , it's the new generation of Virii writing.

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ALI , I start to be nervous , i was waiting for Assimbly yusterday , and i'm weitng today and if you don't send me . . . . . . . . I will not learn how to make BACTERYS


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#286: Mar 2 '08

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I got ath home more than 500 books. I got ilegal book on my computer in PDF format.

Why can't you just go to the library and legally borrow it for free?
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BACTERY isn't the new OS name , it's the new generation of Virii writing.

How's that going to help you build an OS?
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#288: Mar 2 '08

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Why can't you just go to the library and legally borrow it for free?

FYI, Many countries don't have libraries as readily available as Europe and North America. Nor do they have the established habit of reading as a pastime that our culture has.

For example, here in Peru, hardly anyone goes to the library, there are just about zero book stores (maybe one or two in each larger city), and the books that do exist are prohibitively expensive. People who work all day long just to make enough to survive don't have the time or money or energy or desire to sit down and read a good book before falling off to sleep.

Not saying Macedonia is the same, just pointing out that things could be different than you may be used to :-)

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FYI, Many countries don't have libraries as readily available as Europe and North America. Nor do they have the established habit of reading as a pastime that our culture has.

For example, here in Peru, hardly anyone goes to the library, there are just about zero book stores (maybe one or two in each larger city), and the books that do exist are prohibitively expensive. People who work all day long just to make enough to survive don't have the time or money or energy or desire to sit down and read a good book before falling off to sleep.

Not saying Macedonia is the same, just pointing out that things could be different than you may be used to :-)

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Fair point and you may well be right in this case. However, there are alternatives to illegal PDF e-books.
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I'm with you on that one :-) I've never heard a good excuse for doing something illegal (not a challenge to anyone to see if they can come up with a good one, btw :-)

Just wanted to point out that free and liberal access to a decent library is a luxury that many people don't enjoy.

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#291: Mar 3 '08

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Well , we got library in MACEDONIA, but I don't thik they have some Computer literatyri.

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This is what happens if you steal the internet from someone who is much, much smarter then you. http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html. If someone with a decent amount of knowledge can play games like this, just think what someone with a lot more knowledge can do to you if they are determined.

I am very concerned about it. I have my own high speed DSL and wireless setup. I see many available wireless networks(secure as well as insecure) when I am on my laptop. Some times I get connected to unsecured connections and I use it. I think some other people around my neighborhood have wireless netoworks and their signal are stronger than my wireless at some locations; sometime so I get connected with their instead of mine. I don't even get that , but sometimes keep on using these for hours and do not notice at all. Is this still a crime? I don't know them so I can't tell them to secure their networks.
I think it's their responsibility to proect their networks.
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[b]Hi. I making a program who is don't let the system get down and protect from virus
It's controls a */dll and others files.

So if is posibly the programs run before the system is load
To start before the system is loadnig, you know when show the picture of Windows and the progressbar. By the way if you are using Vista(I use) it dont have picture of Vist it's have just a Progressbar

So if you know something abot that send me
DO YOU WANT TO GET IN MY TEAM
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Vace


HI, plz tell me one thing. Can a beginer (can work in c,c++,SQL,html ) join ur tem to enhance his programming skills?
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HI, plz tell me one thing. Can a beginer (can work in c,c++,SQL,html ) join ur tem to enhance his programming skills?


I will tell you



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Of courese can get in the team . . .

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Of courese can get in the team . . .

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Make your mind up! ;)
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I am very concerned about it. I have my own high speed DSL and wireless setup. I see many available wireless networks(secure as well as insecure) when I am on my laptop. Some times I get connected to unsecured connections and I use it. I think some other people around my neighborhood have wireless netoworks and their signal are stronger than my wireless at some locations; sometime so I get connected with their instead of mine. I don't even get that , but sometimes keep on using these for hours and do not notice at all. Is this still a crime? I don't know them so I can't tell them to secure their networks.
I think it's their responsibility to proect their networks.
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I wouldn't worry unduly.
These effects are mainly temporary anyway, and yes, it is really the responsibility of the network administrator to secure their network, at least to a basic degree.
Many people don't understand how to though, so stealing (not accidentally using) their bandwidth is a low thing to do, and certainly not to be encouraged.

I would very much doubt that someone who can play these tricks would be unaware of how to secure their wireless networks such that only a deliberate cracker could get on and steal their bandwidth.

In short - I wouldn't worry :)
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Originally Posted by creative1

I am very concerned about it. I have my own high speed DSL and wireless setup. I see many available wireless networks(secure as well as insecure) when I am on my laptop. Some times I get connected to unsecured connections and I use it. I think some other people around my neighborhood have wireless netoworks and their signal are stronger than my wireless at some locations; sometime so I get connected with their instead of mine. I don't even get that , but sometimes keep on using these for hours and do not notice at all. Is this still a crime? I don't know them so I can't tell them to secure their networks.
I think it's their responsibility to proect their networks.
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If you live in the united states, technically using a network that you do not have permission to use is considered stealing. Now the issue is, what constitutes "permission". If a network has an unsecured wireless access point are they giving everyone implicit permission to use their network? I think so, if you are too lazy, dumb, or don't care enough to secure your network then you are basically giving people permission to use it. However, I never feel comfortable using a network that I don't know the owners of because of all the logging and dangerous information that they can do to your machine if they are very smart.

Example: Read me
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Hi,
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Yeah! I totally understand why one doesn't want to keep network secure. We don't keep it secure because we have more than one operators, and we don't like to keep it secure; even don't care if someone else shares the bandwidth.
by the way I am in British Columbia
Thanks again
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#300: Mar 4 '08

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Originally Posted by VACEPROGRAMER

ALI , I start to be nervous , i was waiting for Assimbly yusterday , and i'm weitng today and if you don't send me . . . . . . . . I will not learn how to make BACTERYS


VxE

So you need assembly for virii not OS.
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